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Old 07-21-2020, 09:58 PM
 
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Being obtuse is a sign of rhetorical and intellectual incapacity. You know what undocumented immigrants are, so stick to the substance of the issue. Hope this helps.
No one knows what "undocumented immigrants" are. There is no such thing.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What is wrong with that man. The census is to count people.

President Donald Trump signed a memorandum Tuesday claiming that undocumented migrants should not be counted in the census for purposes of deciding how many members of Congress are apportioned to each state – though the practical impact of the president's expected move is uncertain at best.

"Respect for the law and protection of the integrity of the democratic process warrant the exclusion of illegal aliens from the apportionment base, to the extent feasible and to the maximum extent of the President's discretion under the law," Trump said in the brief document.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tel...161353555.html
the census is to count CITIZENS, and Permanent non-citizens (ie here on a visa)
"undocumented"...ILLEGAL immigrants… are illegal, and undocumented..therefore do not actually permanently reside anywhere in the US






think of it this way.... I live in NY, but also own/rent residences in TX, FL, and PR...should I be counted 4 times as they are all legal residences....should I be allowed to vote 4 times too???
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:05 PM
 
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No one knows what "undocumented immigrants" are. There is no such thing.
And yet you know enough to comment on this topic. Stop being obtuse and stick to the substance of this thread if you want to be taken seriously.

If you think the directive is somehow practical or constitutional, we’re all ears.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Being obtuse is a sign of rhetorical and intellectual incapacity. You know what undocumented immigrants are, so stick to the substance of the issue. Hope this helps.
actually there is no such thing as "undocumented" ...they are ILLEGAL... but the fascist liberals decided to make up a more PC phrase
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:08 PM
 
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Interesting to see if an illegal alien is considered to have standing to challenge this in court.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:09 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Interesting to see if an illegal alien is considered to have standing to challenge this in court.
Sure he does.

A court in his own country.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:14 PM
 
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And yet you know enough to comment on this topic. Stop being obtuse and stick to the substance of this thread if you want to be taken seriously.

If you think the directive is somehow practical or constitutional, we’re all ears.
The point of this thread is to discuss a non-existent category. Obviously, the census cannot count undocumented people since the term is a deliberately stupid term intended to disrupt any discussion of the topic it is injected into.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Being obtuse is a sign of rhetorical and intellectual incapacity. You know what undocumented immigrants are, so stick to the substance of the issue. Hope this helps.
seems to me you are the one being obtuse...




think on this for a second...


the census is a document...it is in fact a federal OFFICIAL document...


therefore they (the "undocumented") will now (if they participate) be officially documented that they entered/ overstayed in the USA ILLEGALLY....


if they participate, they CAN NOT be classified as "undocumented" because they are VOLUNTEERING to be documented... and we can now officially document them as illegal




oh.. fascist liberal PC thrown right back at ya
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:27 PM
 
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No one knows what "undocumented immigrants" are. There is no such thing.
An undocumented immigrant is someone who has immigrated from one country to another without official documentation. It seems pretty straightforward but I know some people can struggle with unfamiliar terminology. Anyway, now that you know what an "undocumented immigrant" is, perhaps you can add something useful to the discussion.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:30 PM
 
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They aren't "undocumented" as in the topic title either. They are illegal aliens and you are correct in everything you stated. My question is how does the census determine who is here illegally and who is not?
Oldglory---Everyone is supposed to fill out a census form, even illegals. On the form, they are supposed to state their immigration status. I suspect that most illegals won't bother filling out the form or talking to a census taker.

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They can't.
^^^^They most certainly can.
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