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Old 07-21-2020, 05:31 PM
 
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What is wrong with that man. The census is to count people.

President Donald Trump signed a memorandum Tuesday claiming that undocumented migrants should not be counted in the census for purposes of deciding how many members of Congress are apportioned to each state – though the practical impact of the president's expected move is uncertain at best.

"Respect for the law and protection of the integrity of the democratic process warrant the exclusion of illegal aliens from the apportionment base, to the extent feasible and to the maximum extent of the President's discretion under the law," Trump said in the brief document.
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:35 PM
 
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I don't understand the logic -- other than it allows him to make up numbers. What does he think the census is for?
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:39 PM
 
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What is wrong with that man. The census is to count people.
Foreign nationals who are living in the United States unlawfully have no business in the United States and their numbers should not be used to make policy. They aren't supposed to be here.
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:41 PM
 
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Foreign nationals who are living in the United States unlawfully have no business in the United States and their numbers should not be used to make policy. They aren't supposed to be here.
^^^^This

It's about time!
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:42 PM
 
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Foreign nationals who are living in the United States unlawfully have no business in the United States and their numbers should not be used to make policy. They aren't supposed to be here.

There numbers are not used to make policy, but for determining how many House representatives each state shall have.



I mean, slaves were not considered citizens, or even human, but they were counted (or, each slave counted as 3/5ths of a person), in the census.
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:42 PM
 
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I don't understand the logic -- other than it allows him to make up numbers. What does he think the census is for?
The census is counting them, they're not being used to determine how many congressional reps the state gets.
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:43 PM
 
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The census is counting them, they're not being used to determine how many congressional reps the state gets.

Good point. My post, above, stands corrected.
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:49 PM
 
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There numbers are not used to make policy, but for determining how many House representatives each state shall have.



I mean, slaves were not considered citizens, or even human, but they were counted (or, each slave counted as 3/5ths of a person), in the census.
you do realize the amount of representatives a state has equals more power in Washington and the ability to make Policy. Is basic civic knowledge so lacking today.
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Old 07-21-2020, 06:09 PM
 
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There numbers are not used to make policy, but for determining how many House representatives each state shall have.
The data in the census is used for government programs, funding, policies, and all manner of decision-making. Their numbers shouldn't be used for any of those purposes.

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I mean, slaves were not considered citizens, or even human, but they were counted (or, each slave counted as 3/5ths of a person), in the census.
Stop comparing illegal immigrants to slaves! Illegal immigrants are victims of nothing!
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Old 07-21-2020, 06:12 PM
 
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The data in the census is used for government programs, funding, policies, and all manner of decision-making. Their numbers shouldn't be used for any of those purposes.



Stop comparing illegal immigrants to slaves! Illegal immigrants are victims of nothing!
With slaves, there was an agreement between the states when the constitution was ratified. There is no such agreement between the states currently. So now a state can float federal immigration law, and increase their representation against other states? No, that's not fair. Sorry California.
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