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Well, history has said otherwise, and there is no proof. In fact all facts lead to the contrary, so can you point me to your source?
If you do any research, you would see how impossible widespread fraud by mail would be.
I gave a quote from the POTUS saying he is trying to defund the USPS specifically to suppress votes. That is PROOF.
Where are your quotes that D's are trying to use mail-in voting for fraud. Where is your proof that it's ever happened on any scale? Where is your proof that it's even possible?
Trump and R's are also shutting down polling stations that don't favor them (FACT)
R's have been caught gerrymandering "with laser precision" (FACT)
More modern cases of voter fraud have been committed by R's than D's (FACT)
Trump himself uses mail-in voting (FACT)
I recieved a brochure (by USPS, LMAO) yesteday with him touting absentee voting (a form of mail in voting).
Where's your proof? Not your accusations, PROOF.
Were those his words or yours? You present your distortion as fact? Thats lying.
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Just when I thought the Trump Administration couldn't sink any lower on this USPS issue. Moments ago:
News anchor:. "there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud."
Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows: "there's no evidence that there's not."
Jesus.
How can you say theres no evidence of something that hasnt happened yet?
This whole thing is stupid. To say that there is not more potential fraud in mail in ballots than walk in voting is absurd and dishonest. But thats why we call them lieberals.
In fact, between 2011 and 2016, there were roughly 14,000 USPS mailboxes removed, which was during the Obama-Biden administration.
A 2009 Washington Post article stated, "In the past 20 years, 200,000 mailboxes have vanished from city streets, rural routes and suburban neighborhoods – more than the 175,000 that remain."
"The U.S. Postal Service says it removes 'underperforming' mailboxes – those that collect fewer than 25 pieces of mail a day – after a week-long 'density test,'" the report read, echoing what Frum said last week.
Because of the hysteria over the relocated mailboxes, the USPS said they would not remove any boxes until after the election.
How frequently is a different argument. Whether it'll happen in the future is based on a crystal ball so that argument is pointless.
When they give that 1000+ number they dont mean votes they mean cases. For instance in one california case the conviction involved 748 ballots from non citizens. Easier to pull that **** when they dont have to show up in person. This has long been the Democrat lie. That when Republicans try to ensure an honest vote by simply requiring a valid ID for instance, Democrats say its Republicans who are destroying democracy blah blah blah. Republicans arent suppressing votes, just voter fraud.
The tinfoil hat wearing Democrats continue with their conspiracy theory. If CNN reports it, they think that makes it true. Just like Covington, Russiagate, Jussie Smollet and so many other times that the "legitimate" news media got caught being insanely biased and completely wrong about the entire story.
Gotta hand it to them. the Mainstream News Media took what used to be the purview of crazy homeless people walking around arguing with themselves, to being a more mainstream and respectable thing. Half the country even believes all the BS they keep pumping out!!
Whats really crazy is when their accusations are proven groundless or worse a complete lie, do they acknowledge their error, apologize to the President, or recognize due process? Hell no. They continue the claim as fact and come up with another.
Every state already does absentee / mail in voting. 1 in 4 Americans did it last election. Now all of a sudden it will be an issue?
But alright, I'll play along. Say it will be a "massive logistical problem" now all of a sudden because of sheer size. Is the answer then to reduce sorting machines and block increased funding to improve the "logistical problem" or would those be opposite actions to take if one was trying to improve things to make sure it does not happen (or the problem is reduced)?
Have you bothered looking in to the process in each state? Not everyone in the state can vote by mail. Many states require an application process to become an absentee voter, which is the first step in the logistical nightmare that you somehow think will magically be no problem.
Not every state is set up to accommodate the entire voting populace voting by mail. It's one thing to say that some states accept a tiny percent of their voting populace via mailed envelope. It's another thing entirely to assume every state set up to process a tiny percent of their voting populace by mail can just magically accommodate their entire voting body.
It's not a strong argument.
Congress has been arguing over USPS funding for ... how many decades now? This isn't new. Re-allocating a few machines isn't going to make or break anyone.
Why do you assume the only reason this could be done is some malicious reason? Is it because you have an agenda to push?
Have you bothered looking in to the process in each state? Not everyone in the state can vote by mail. Many states require an application process to become an absentee voter, which is the first step in the logistical nightmare that you somehow think will magically be no problem.
Not every state is set up to accommodate the entire voting populace voting by mail. It's one thing to say that some states accept a tiny percent of their voting populace via mailed envelope. It's another thing entirely to assume every state set up to process a tiny percent of their voting populace by mail can just magically accommodate their entire voting body.
It's not a strong argument.
Congress has been arguing over USPS funding for ... how many decades now? This isn't new. Re-allocating a few machines isn't going to make or break anyone.
Why do you assume the only reason this could be done is some malicious reason? Is it because you have an agenda to push?
Who said everyone in the state has to, or will decide to vote by mail? 1 in 4 (25%) of voters did so last election so while it is not rare (its widespread) most people still voted in person. I bet my bottom dollar the same will hold true this election.
If more choose to choose to vote by mail this election (many people are still afraid to leave the house and have groceries and essentials delivered) then there will be more logistics. With that, you did not answer the question I asked you:
Is the answer then to reduce sorting machines and block increased funding to improve the "logistical problem" or would those be opposite actions to take if one was trying to improve things to make sure it does not happen (or the problem is reduced)?
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