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But the fundamental ideas of justice and morals are universal and really ancient. That you don't steal, kill others, etc. And that if you do, you will be punished.
I think the point of laws is to keep people from violating each other's freedoms and rights, in other words to limit freedoms and rights in a way everyone can live with, a compromise.
Yes, the Bible and Koran suck
Wrong.
(Quran, by the way, is the correct proper singular noun)
There is no such thing as a universal justice or universal morals or universal ethics.
Morals, ethics, and justice, BY DEFINITION, are subjective. There is no objectivity with these concepts. They're not objects. They will forever be subjective applications, not objective truth.
Your idea of justice may not be the same as your neighbor's idea of justice. That's why the law arrests them when they set your house on fire because they didn't like the color. To them, that's justice. To you, it's not.
What is post-birth abortion?! The term abortion makes no sense once the baby is born. What am I missing here?
You're not missing anything except some nonsensical drivel. It's interesting, though, that aspersions are being cast on Biden's devotion to his faith. He is well-known for his weekly church attendance, while I doubt that Trump has been in a church much, except, perhaps, to make a speech or hold a rally.
(Quran, by the way, is the correct proper singular noun)
There is no such thing as a universal justice or universal moral.
Morals, ethics, and justice, BY DEFINITION, are subjective. There is no objectivity with these concepts. They're not objects. They will forever be subjective applications, not objective truth.
Your idea of justice may not be the same as your neighbor's idea of justice. That's why the law arrests them when they set your house on fire because they didn't like the color. To them, that's justice. To you, it's not.
That is the point of society, it collectively establishes rules, norms etc. for the individuals, and that has always happened. Whenever there is a society, no matter where, it is faced by the same challenges because humans only vary so much. We like to think of ourselves as unique, but in fact from an outsider's perspective humans are typical humans no matter where you go.
What are those nonsense claims about? How does Biden have anything to do with Islam, or with China (another popular claim here)?! What is the logic? Pick any topic one knows Americans hate or are afraid of, and then desperately try to associate it with your political opponent?
Because intersectionality demands it!
The Dems have proven themselves to be pro-Hamas/PLO, pro-Islamist (Iran deal) and anti-Israel at every opportunity.
It was Biden himself who ensured the passage of UN Security Council Resolution 23342016 in December of 2016, as a parting shot against Israel, declaring the Western Wall (the holiest site in Judaism, ie, the site of the two Temples that stood on the Temple Mount) as occupied territory. That was an attack on worldwide Jewry, and clear support of the Arab nations attempt to erase Israel.
According to Israeli officials, Biden phoned Ukranian president Petro Poroshenko when he caught word they may veto the resolution. It is also theorized that Biden, under Obama's direction, approached New Zealand and offered diplomatic favors in return for their sending the proposal to the UN Security Council. Biden is a bad actor, when it comes to Israel. Biden is a sworn enemy of the Jewish state.
That is the point of society, it collectively establishes rules, norms etc. for the individuals, and that has always happened. Whenever there is a society, no matter where, it is faced by the same challenges because humans only vary so much. We like to think of ourselves as unique, but in fact from an outsider's perspective humans are typical humans no matter where you go.
A collective commune establishing rules does not make morals or ethics or justice objective, though.
They are still subjective and always will be, with even the constituents of the commune disagreeing on the application of the definition, which is why you still have people breaking the law.
poor Dems, left trying to denigrate a mother of 7, two being Haitian refugees....lmao Trump is on top of the world, get another SC Justice and takes away the Coronavirus media attention.
Still waiting on the rape allegations. I expect somebody will come forward insisting that she tortured puppies as a hobby when they were kids together.
If the Republicans fail to replace RGB this year, Republican voters will punish every Republican senator responsible. They will be replaced in the primaries, every single one of them.
I'm thinking more along the lines of several older guys testifying that in grade school, Amy showed them her underpants at recess!
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Thank you for clarifying the meaning of "precedes" in this context. I also agree with your last sentence.
For example, in the article she stated that abortion is always immoral. She certainly has a right to this opinion. However, the morality of abortion ought to be irrelevant to its legality. If she finds that the Constitution does not protect the right to abortion in any way, then she is free to vote to overturn Roe v Wade. But not for the reason that she or the Church find it immoral.
And, her record should indicate under other crimes whether she has let her religion make the decisions.
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The constitution is kind of important for a SCOTUS judge to follow, don't you think? Look at countries that are Theocracies. It doesn't end well for citizens in those countries.
I think fearing that one member of the SC has moral and religious convictions that would turn the country into a theocracy is probably a little much!
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If that were true, she would believe in separation of Church and State. Her words imply otherwise.
I really think this was probably cherry-picked, so basing it on one article would probably not be the best way to make a decision on what she may or may not believe.
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Infanticide is already illegal. Abortion is not.
The line is very blurry, as in a baby born from a botched abortion, isn't the procedure to kill it? I know there was some controversy over that. Also, pulling the baby into the birth canal and killing it. I know the Dems oppose any regulation on the mother choosing to stop the heartbeat of her preborn baby. (Even PP agrees that abortion stops a beating heart.)
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What does Biden have to do with this. And what does being a Catholic have to do with this. Very bizarre statement.
Amy is a Catholic, and they fear her faith as a Catholic will threaten abortion rights if she sees her faith as more important than the Constitution. Practicing Catholics generally view abortion as wrong, but then again, Biden doesn't appear to be a practicing Catholic with his vile sexual habits with women and little girls. They are simply both Catholic.
A collective commune establishing rules does not make morals or ethics or justice objective, though.
They are still subjective and always will be, with even the constituents of the commune disagreeing on the application of the definition, which is why you still have people breaking the law.
I don't think people break the law because they disagree with the rules. Does a thief find it OK when another thief steals his stuff? Does a killer find it OK when another killer kills his wife?
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Because intersectionality demands it!
The Dems have proven themselves to be pro-Hamas/PLO, pro-Islamist (Iran deal) and anti-Israel at every opportunity.
It was Biden himself who ensured the passage of UN Security Council Resolution 23342016 in December of 2016, as a parting shot against Israel, declaring the Western Wall (the holiest site in Judaism, ie, the site of the two Temples that stood on the Temple Mount) as occupied territory. That was an attack on worldwide Jewry, and clear support of the Arab nations attempt to erase Israel.
According to Israeli officials, Biden phoned Ukranian president Petro Poroshenko when he caught word they may veto the resolution. It is also theorized that Biden, under Obama's direction, approached New Zealand and offered diplomatic favors in return for their sending the proposal to the UN Security Council. Biden is a bad actor, when it comes to Israel. Biden is a sworn enemy of the Jewish state.
While I think he is a moron and crook, in the case of the Western Wall I don't see the problem. Since it was seized in 1967 in the wake of the war, it is indeed occupied because international law prohibits any land grab in the course of a war, by either side.
But really, I don't like either side down there, neither the Zionists nor the Muslims. They both are so backwards and malicious in my view...
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Well, we knew the attacks would be coming, guess this is the best you guys could come up with.
At least you aren't inventing rape allegations this time.
Someone claiming any religious dogma is more important than the Constitution in cases before the SCOTUS is the worst you could do in a candidate for a seat on that bench.
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