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how is due process going to help you when an angry mob is headed for your store/home? due process will help the criminal if he gets away with it, but the victims are already dead or injured and robbed.
You don't get it. Its not about defending your home. That is already the law, and that is fine, because people have the right to defend themselves. This law will allow people to use lethal force when they suspect someone is breaking into a closed gas station that has nothing to do with you. Heck it allows lethal force against people drawing graffiti, which is often kids.
Based on the posts, the idea of it brings a smile on certain people's faces, but the law is problematic for the reasons already stated on this thread.
All of a sudden the same people who have been saying the use of lethal force is limited to defending yourself when your life is in imminent danger, are suddenly saying its ok to kill people when they are drawing graffiti on someone else's business.
I wonder if it's okay to shoot up the anti-abortion people who make it difficult for women to access Planned Parenthood for birth control (or for abortions or for anything else... since it's none of anyone's business). They're impeding business, after all.
if they are breaking into the facility, big fat yup
Considering the threats of violence that are bubbling up from the MAGA crowd, DeSantis may very well regret what he wished for.
unintended consequences
I haven't heard of any threats of violence from the MAGA crowd. If there are any that you're aware of, how do they compare with the riots, looting, and burnings in Minneapolis, New York, Portland, Atlanta, and any number of other cities?
I wonder if it's okay to shoot up the anti-abortion people who make it difficult for women to access Planned Parenthood for birth control (or for abortions or for anything else... since it's none of anyone's business). They're impeding business, after all.
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Leftist put criminals/illegals ahead of law abiding, tax paying American citizens. They hate the USA and the people who love the USA.
i hear more anti-american rhetoric from the left to the point where i wonder why they dont move.
they admire other countries, and say we look bad, etc.. etc. they want to change america
its annoying and offensive to hear.
we sat in horror while the country burned, helpless. and i admire florida taking a darn stand.
no one will get shot, because they know better than to act the fool.
i hear more anti-american rhetoric from the left to the point where i wonder why they dont move.
I can't speak for the 'left', but I live in Florida and I like our Stand Your Ground laws just the way they are written as of today. This new proposal is stupid. Period. DeSantis is a Trump ass-kisser which is probably why he is coming up with this nonsense which is hailed only by the hard core Trump loyalists. Maybe he thinks imitating the Trump-talk would pave his political road. I doubt it will work.
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they admire other countries, and say we look bad, etc.. etc. they want to change america
its annoying and offensive to hear.
No clue who you are referring to, but its also fairly annoying to hear people like you who live in California to moan and whine about your State. Why don't you move.
Shooting robbers and looters is not new -calling them protestors and innocent bystanders is
Calling shop keepers that resist- criminals-is not new either- it is Germany 1939
To those opposed, what should someone do if their place of business is being broken into by a large group of people?
If your answer is anything along the lines of "allow yourself to be victimized and hope the police can make it right later", you need to be quiet and let the grown-ups talk.
No one should EVER be expected to allow themselves to be victimized like that.
Yes, and I support that, but this new proposal would make everyone a cop, judge and the executioner. It is not about self defense anymore. If you think someone is in process of "criminal mischief", you can kill that person on the spot.
Due process flies out the window.
Where in the draft legislation does DeSantis' proposal extend beyond Stand Your Ground?
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