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Old 12-29-2020, 08:13 AM
 
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Social media was a game changer.

Moral of the story is don’t engage in behavior that one day may be posted to YouTube.

I strive not to offend and take no offense.
The problem with that is, what you may find to be non-offensive and even innocuous is completely offensive to someone somewhere. And if that person ticks of the right boxes on the victim chart, your life and reputation can be turned upside down.

I would suggest keeping one's head down and never saying anything, but then they say "silence is violence."

You can't win. That's the point.
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Old 12-29-2020, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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If we as a nation are going into the business of treating children like adults we may as well let them start smoking, drinking, and joining the military at 15.
Hell, why wait that long? Once they are able to start posting stuff - they should be responsible, right? (sarcasm)

The problem here appears that this girls slur was not directed at anyone and she was using a "typical" (albeit offensive) vernacular among friends (and yes, we've all seen this on the internet).

In the end, they are condemning people for what they did while young with the assumption that one never learns anything beyond that one point in time. I'm sure many people who support this young man also believe in the rehabilitation of prisoners.
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Old 12-29-2020, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Social media was a game changer.

Moral of the story is don’t engage in behavior that one day may be posted to YouTube.

I strive not to offend and take no offense.
And don’t be a white kid who thinks using the word n****r is cool just because black people use it.

For the record, I think this kid who did this to this girl is absolute scum.
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Old 12-29-2020, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Social media was a game changer.

Moral of the story is don’t engage in behavior that one day may be posted to YouTube.

I strive not to offend and take no offense.
Even in the era of "social media," expecting kids to conduct themselves like they possess fully developed and flawless adult sensibilities while they navigate some of the most difficult times of their lives so that absolutely no deviation from perfect conduct will haunt them in their adult lives is absolutely asinine. If you can't be stupid when you're 15, when the hell can you be? It's hard enough for adults to live in a world with a quickly vanishing sense of grace, never mind teenagers. If the online mob decides one day you've offended them in some way, they won't care a whit how hard you strove not to.

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And don’t be a white kid who thinks using the word n****r is cool just because black people use it.

For the record, I think this kid who did this to this girl is absolute scum.
The people who run the institutions that gave him this kind of power are the scum. The the pitchfork-wielders at the NYT and the spineless cowards at UT should be ashamed of themselves.

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Old 12-29-2020, 08:17 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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What BS.
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Old 12-29-2020, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Yep, but people will still vilify the poster of the media.

I had the sense to instill in my child that having thoughts and saying (posting, etc.) thoughts are two different things. The internet is forever.

Poor parenting in my opinion.

I get it cancel culture is way overblown but by the same token you want to play stupid games (and say stupid things) you win stupid prizes. Congrats.
Right.

The "internet is forever" message is an important one to learn early. Unfortunately, many people have to learn the hard way.

I think cancel culture has gone way too far. But I do think it's important that people learn accountability for their actions. Should a college student potentially have their life ruined for uttering a slur when they were 15? No way. But the rest of the world should use these examples as lessons - think about what you say, and make damn sure you don't record/post anything that can be used against you later on.

I do find it odd that a bunch of (presumably) grown adults on this thread wasted zero time before speculating about a teenager's sexuality. That's more telling to me than any of the "news" about the way this video was used. The kid definitely leveraged the system for maximum effect, but maybe focus the conversation on what's wrong with the system rather than trying to guess what's making him tick sexually... that's just weird.
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Old 12-29-2020, 08:43 AM
 
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Right.

The "internet is forever" message is an important one to learn early. Unfortunately, many people have to learn the hard way.

I think cancel culture has gone way too far. But I do think it's important that people learn accountability for their actions. Should a college student potentially have their life ruined for uttering a slur when they were 15? No way. But the rest of the world should use these examples as lessons - think about what you say, and make damn sure you don't record/post anything that can be used against you later on.

I do find it odd that a bunch of (presumably) grown adults on this thread wasted zero time before speculating about a teenager's sexuality. That's more telling to me than any of the "news" about the way this video was used. The kid definitely leveraged the system for maximum effect, but maybe focus the conversation on what's wrong with the system rather than trying to guess what's making him tick sexually... that's just weird.
Again, anything you say can later be used against you. Even the most innocuous statement or sentiment can be turned against you.

It's not what is said, it's who says it and who's offended.
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Old 12-29-2020, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Right.

The "internet is forever" message is an important one to learn early. Unfortunately, many people have to learn the hard way.

I think cancel culture has gone way too far. But I do think it's important that people learn accountability for their actions. Should a college student potentially have their life ruined for uttering a slur when they were 15? No way. But the rest of the world should use these examples as lessons - think about what you say, and make damn sure you don't record/post anything that can be used against you later on.

I do find it odd that a bunch of (presumably) grown adults on this thread wasted zero time before speculating about a teenager's sexuality. That's more telling to me than any of the "news" about the way this video was used. The kid definitely leveraged the system for maximum effect, but maybe focus the conversation on what's wrong with the system rather than trying to guess what's making him tick sexually... that's just weird.
There’s photos on the internet of him wearing lipstick and pouting like a woman into the camera. I think it’s fair to deduce that he may indeed be suffering from sexual identity confusion.

If it’s ok for him to ruin this girl’s life over an internet video then he is certainly game for discussion of his sexuality based on photos he himself has posted online.

These are the unintended consequences of bringing national attention to ones self.
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Again, anything you say can later be used against you. Even the most innocuous statement or sentiment can be turned against you.

It's not what is said, it's who says it and who's offended.
So what? It doesn't take a neurosurgeon to understand the varying degrees of risk/consequences here, right? If you're a white person and you use the N-word on social media, it's not going to end well. Period. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

Was the dude who blew up her spot petty and vindictive? Absolutely. Should she have been dropped from the cheerleading program and pressured to leave school? Hell no. All of that is indicative of a systemic problem.

Both of those paragraphs can be true at the same time.
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Old 12-29-2020, 09:09 AM
 
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Social media was a game changer.

Moral of the story is don’t engage in behavior that one day may be posted to YouTube.

I strive not to offend and take no offense.
just an end around via "social media" to bring about "1984" reality........
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