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View Poll Results: How do you feel about the situation at the capital
Gleeful 37 5.17%
Justified 72 10.06%
A bit conflicted 54 7.54%
Sad 137 19.13%
Disgusted 485 67.74%
Other (please elaborate) 49 6.84%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 716. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-07-2021, 10:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Junebug1967 View Post
The people yesterday did not kill any cops, did not burn down business, did not steal TV’s from Best Buy. They even left and went home. What kind of peaceful protest was that? I remember the peaceful protests last year where cops were killed, women raped, buildings burned, business looted and cities occupied for months. The people yesterday were amateurs.
Please cite your sources for your rape claim.

 
Old 01-07-2021, 10:57 AM
 
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This act is actually going to backfire on Trump and the MAGAS. Yesterday everyday Americans that do not go to rallies, or have flotillas which are the vast majority, got a front row seat to the hateful anti-democracy part of MAGA. That image will not be forgotten.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 10:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
You are completely delusional if you believe this. What the world witnessed yesterday was the weakening of America. You can bet Americans with brains (MAGAs obviously excluded) were horrified at what they saw yesterday, and how easy it appears to be to take over a federal building. These are images that will not fade away.

The Trump spell was broken inside the Republican party yesterday. People will not forget, though I suspect every MAGA hopes they will.
From a national security standpoint, it weakened our country terribly. If a bunch of loser thugs can get in that easily, what could a militia do?

Yeah, they were some patriots.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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Originally Posted by Patriotic Dissent View Post
Have fun with that. You can't stop us. Period. You wanted to ignore the legal means we went through to fix a fraud election so a revolution is what's next. We won't stop EVER. It's so cute you think America First MAGA folks are JUST white folks. You're racism is showing once again.
They are all white trash rednecks...no latinos or blacks were in the capital from all the pictures shown.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
You know, this 'feelings' excuse really gets to me.

People "feel" that the election was rigged. They don't know it was rigged, they "feel" it was rigged.

Why? Why do they "feel" this?

Because they were lied to, that's why.

We are supposed to have sympathy with people who swallow blatant lies hook, line and sinker? They take to these fantastic conspiracy theories like addicts to heroin.

If they "feel their grievances were being completely ignored and that their voices were being repressed and silenced" as you say, they need to wake up and smell the coffee. They are only angry because they have been lied to by Trump and his collaborators, they never had ANY justification for what they did.

They can't blame the rest of us for their own self-induced willful ignorance. They can't blame the rest of us for their own fantasies.
All of these questions about imagined oppression and grievances need to be asked of BLM and Antifa. There is a pretty massive portion of black Americans who are raised to believe that every white person in America is actively trying to stop them from succeeding in life. The Democratic Party has been actively feeding that conspiracy theory monster for decades because it guarantees they'll get the black vote, but it's mostly complete fiction.

But in both cases, there are legitimate grievances and those grievances are actively repressed and ignored.

Things that actually happened:
  1. A location in Georgia falsely reported that a water main had broken, then proceeded to count votes after all the observers left the building.
  2. Many containers of votes were pulled out from their hiding place under a table and counted when the vote counting was supposedly pause.
  3. Republican observers were kicked out of the building where the votes were being counted. The courts ordered that they be let back in. The were let back in but kept at insane and useless distances, preventing them from doing their job of overseeing the validity of the vote count.
  4. Many dead people voted.
  5. Many people who didn't live in a state, vote in that state anyways.
  6. Ballot harvesting happened on a significant scale.
  7. Numerous election laws were completely ignored.
  8. Many other election laws were changed on the fly by the executive decree of the governor when he didn't have the authority to do this.
  9. A massive number of mailed in votes were counted with almost zero verification.
  10. Chain of custody of many ballots absolutely sloppy and broken.
  11. There was indeed a sudden and simultaneous spike in Biden votes that appeared almost instantly, and just happened to move him from clearly losing to just barely winning.
  12. We can go to election servers from 2018, 2016, 2012, etc. and pull data, but this year, somebody decided to wipe the data and disappear information.

All of those thing deserve their day in court and a serious investigation. Call them crazy conspiracy theorists if you like, but this is an opportunity to clean up a lot of flaws in our election processes, so doing a deep dive is in everyone's best intersests.

Now how much was voter fraud and how much was extreme stupidity and incompetence by election workers? We have no way of answering that question. The establishment of both parties seems hell-bent on not looking into any of it.

If somebody is screaming, "You cheated!!!" the intelligent and rational response is this: Don't tell them you didn't cheat. Show them. Once you have done your level best to actually show them that you didn't cheat, you've done the right thing. At that point, if they still don't believe you, it's on them and not you. But refusing to take a look and see is the least helpful of all possible responses.

The Democrats stole the 1960 and got away with it. That is proven fact at this point. Did they do it again in 2020? I have no idea, but it's certainly possible. Most importantly, I'd like to see us get to a point where stealing an election is absolutely impossible. Sound good?
 
Old 01-07-2021, 11:02 AM
 
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All through 2020 the Dems normalized violent protesting. Radical democrats destroyed federal buildings and monuments,ents,, state buildings, took over and occupied whole areas of cities defying federal and state laws, killed and hospitalized police and innocent citizens, destroyed billions of dollars in businesses and personal property while the Dems and their media ignored it or called it all “mostly peaceful” protesters.
These anarchists were called heroes by many in the dem party and their media. We are now seeing a total disrespect for law and order.

By contrast, the republicans and their media have come out immediately to denounce this behavior by Trump supporters. If the Dems are now going to run this country, Americans better start demanding the Dems start cleaning up their own house and lack of accountability.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 11:02 AM
 
18,983 posts, read 9,092,041 times
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010 View Post
All of these questions about imagined oppression and grievances need to be asked of BLM and Antifa. There is a pretty massive portion of black Americans who are raised to believe that every white person in America is actively trying to stop them from succeeding in life. The Democratic Party has been actively feeding that conspiracy theory monster for decades because it guarantees they'll get the black vote, but it's mostly complete fiction.

But in both cases, there are legitimate grievances and those grievances are actively repressed and ignored.

Things that actually happened:
  1. A location in Georgia falsely reported that a water main had broken, then proceeded to count votes after all the observers left the building.
  2. Many containers of votes were pulled out from their hiding place under a table and counted when the vote counting was supposedly pause.
  3. Republican observers were kicked out of the building where the votes were being counted. The courts ordered that they be let back in. The were let back in but kept at insane and useless distances, preventing them from doing their job of overseeing the validity of the vote count.
  4. Many dead people voted.
  5. Many people who didn't live in a state, vote in that state anyways.
  6. Ballot harvesting happened on a significant scale.
  7. Numerous election laws were completely ignored.
  8. Many other election laws were changed on the fly by the executive decree of the governor when he didn't have the authority to do this.
  9. A massive number of mailed in votes were counted with almost zero verification.
  10. Chain of custody of many ballots absolutely sloppy and broken.
  11. There was indeed a sudden and simultaneous spike in Biden votes that appeared almost instantly, and just happened to move him from clearly losing to just barely winning.
  12. We can go to election servers from 2018, 2016, 2012, etc. and pull data, but this year, somebody decided to wipe the data and disappear information.

All of those thing deserve their day in court and a serious investigation. Call them crazy conspiracy theorists if you like, but this is an opportunity to clean up a lot of flaws in our election processes, so doing a deep dive is in everyone's best intersests.

Now how much was voter fraud and how much was extreme stupidity and incompetence by election workers? We have no way of answering that question. The establishment of both parties seems hell-bent on not looking into any of it.

If somebody is screaming, "You cheated!!!" the intelligent and rational response is this: Don't tell them you didn't cheat. Show them. Once you have done your level best to actually show them that you didn't cheat, you've done the right thing. At that point, if they still don't believe you, it's on them and not you. But refusing to take a look and see is the least helpful of all possible responses.

The Democrats stole the 1960 and got away with it. That is proven fact at this point. Did they do it again in 2020? I have no idea, but it's certainly possible. Most importantly, I'd like to see us get to a point where stealing an election is absolutely impossible. Sound good?
MAGA fanfiction. And really bad MAGA fanfiction at that. I wouldn't even give it one star. Try harder.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
MAGA fanfiction. And really bad MAGA fanfiction at that. I wouldn't even give it one star. Try harder.
Your denial is noted..



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Old 01-07-2021, 11:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010 View Post
All of these questions...
The only question is a very simple one.

Was there widespread election fraud as claimed? NO.

No proof whatsoever was presented. None.

The US Federal government agencies run by Trump appointees told us that.

The states themselves told us that.

The claimants, the ones making these fantastic charges showed nothing to the FBI, nor to any judge, anywhere.

It's all bogus. You've been hoaxed.
 
Old 01-07-2021, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Originally Posted by Poseidon3290 View Post
If it makes you feel better go buy another Dont Tread On Me Flag to replace the one that says "F**K your feelings" - right now it's going to be tough for trumpers to realize that F your feelings flag is what the overwhelming majority of the US citizens feel towards their trumper domestic terrorist selves.
There are 75 million Americans that voted for Trump that feel the exact opposite.30% of Biden voters feel his election is illegitimate. This divide isn't going away. It was sowed by democrats for years. They were very open about their plans to steal this election with their shameless public statements.

If you think yesterday was unnerving wait until the left starts attacking Biden and his administration for not bending to their will. The leftist anarchist are pros at this type of violence. What we saw yesterday was amateur hour. It was like watching a barking dog chase a car that passed by their house for years and yesterday when he finally caught it he had no idea what to do with it. The unhinged comments by both Republicans and Democrats tripping over each other to condemn what happened is equally appalling. They have forgotten what Thomas Jefferson said.

The left have been reaping what they sowed for years, and in 2 weeks Biden will own all of it. Biden is another example of a barking dog chasing a car for years. In his case he was chasing the Presidency. Now that he has it he won't know what to do with it. At the very leats he won;t be able to do what he wants to do with it.
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