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Old 02-08-2021, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Originally Posted by thriftylefty View Post
Because black people have been kept land poor. I know white people in the North woods who are land rich but money poor and they are doing fine.
Our state is only about 5% black. So the rest of the 15% are Asian or Somali or Latino or Native or whatever.


You keep on making excuses. We all know what is going on in America.

 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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So which angle are you taking here? Poor white people are pathetic because they stay on welfare for generations? What does that say about people who are given favorable admissions to colleges and favortism in hiring yet still can't pull themselves out of poverty?

It's really a stupid game to play and not productive.

When you start out poor it is harder to succeed in the US. That's a given. It isn't impossible, but it's harder. It used to be that when you were poor and black, it was a lot harder, but these days, if you are a black person who finishes school and doesn't commit crimes and are average to above average intelligence, there is nothing holding you back in this country. The opportunities are there. The crime and finishing school part are the vast majority of the problem, not racist cops, or racist HR departments, or racist college admissions offices.

And it seems that's exactly why this current woke movement is so committed and so dedicated...it HAS to maintain the victim narrative or it loses it's political power. But that motivation doesn't help most black people, it only helps the people pushing this narrative and profiting from it.

Nice post. I can't rep you again apparently. By promoting the victim narrative the left does blacks a disservice. Just give them more free stuff... that's their answer for everything. Don't encourage them to take responsibility for their lives... divert the blame onto externals. It's someone ELSES fault I am the way I am... bull.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:06 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I don't know if it's blacks wanting to be separate from whites, or whites (i.e. the ones who run the National Football League) wanting to be separate from blacks. Either way, it's racist.
To think these activists speak for all blacks is a scam the media propaganda machine is critical in perpetuating.

Big corporations now bow to the social justice idiocy and companies like J&J embrace the terrorist group BLM.

It is a trick the left uses to divide the country and elicit comments like, 'if all blacks want to be separate from whites....". Which they then use as 'evidence' of hatred and further divide the country.

BLM org is a perfect example, they create a name that defies anyone to oppose their mission. If you are against BLM you hate blacks, you are racist and a white supremacist. BLm org cares not a whit for black lives or the truth, theirs is a socialist goal to divide the country.

The danger comes from the loss of the free press to shine light on such nefarious tactics. Now we have large corporations with no backbone and profit in mind, fearing a public fight with the social justice warriors and bad publicity. These businesses will sell out their country for a profit.

All these black activists use the same strategy, they spew some extreme language which elicits a likewise negative response which is then used to incite division. The individual activist should be the target as he hides behind the black community and portrays all blacks as a monolith with the exact same thoughts and feelings. the activist is the one who is racist! The activists pretends he hates racism while he employs racism to further his agenda.

We are now betrayed by big business and the former free press as the first socialist regime takes over the country.

1776-2020
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:12 AM
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Our state is only about 5% black. So the rest of the 15% are Asian or Somali or Latino or Native or whatever.


You keep on making excuses. We all know what is going on in America.
Since 1619 White people have been making the argument that black people are inherently; less intelligent, less motivated and less civilized than white people. Why white people can't just move on I don't know. Its like you have to prove this to yourself and not me.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:15 AM
 
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Originally Posted by dman72 View Post
So which angle are you taking here? Poor white people are pathetic because they stay on welfare for generations? What does that say about people who are given favorable admissions to colleges and favortism in hiring yet still can't pull themselves out of poverty?

It's really a stupid game to play and not productive.

When you start out poor it is harder to succeed in the US. That's a given. It isn't impossible, but it's harder. It used to be that when you were poor and black, it was a lot harder, but these days, if you are a black person who finishes school and doesn't commit crimes and are average to above average intelligence, there is nothing holding you back in this country. The opportunities are there. The crime and finishing school part are the vast majority of the problem, not racist cops, or racist HR departments, or racist college admissions offices.

And it seems that's exactly why this current woke movement is so committed and so dedicated...it HAS to maintain the victim narrative or it loses it's political power. But that motivation doesn't help most black people, it only helps the people pushing this narrative and profiting from it.
This is the problem. It’s not just the problem in black communities, it is one of the main problems across any ethnicity. People who decide to do crime instead of contributing to society in a healthy way end up in a bad place. Same with school. You drop out of school and you are many times likely to end up poor. I would add drugs as a third reason. This could be labeled under crime, but regardless of the criminality of drugs (including alcohol and weed) if you make a habit of it, it will destroy your life.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:15 AM
 
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And why would they want citizenship? Unless someone failed to tell them that they already had SUPERIOR STATUS AT LAW (SOVEREIGNTY).


Citizenship IS a privilege, not a right. And the government (servant) certainly can deny privileges and membership as it sees fit. That's not a disability.


Think of it this way - the sovereign People (who have endowed rights) are passengers on a galley.
The citizens are galley slaves - by their consent to be governed.
Is it a travesty to refuse to allow passengers to volunteer to be galley slaves?
. . .
". . . at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the [American] people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects, and have none to govern but themselves. . ."
- - - Justice John Jay, Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 U.S. 2 Dall. 419 419 (1793)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremec...CR_0002_0419_Z
. . .
"... the term 'citizen,' in the United States, is analogous to the term "SUBJECT" in the common law; the change of phrase has resulted from the change in government. ... he who before was a "subject of the King" is now a citizen of the State."
- - - State v. Manuel, 20 N.C. 144 (1838)

SUBJECT - One that owes allegiance to a sovereign and is governed by his laws.
...Men in free governments are subjects as well as citizens; as citizens they enjoy rights and franchises; as subjects they are bound to obey the laws. The term is little used, in this sense, in countries enjoying a republican form of government.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p. 1425
(Note: there is only one country with a "republican form" of government)



A sovereign American cannot be a citizen / subject owing allegiance to a sovereign.

There is no such thing as a Sovereign Citizen - that is an oxymoron.
What are you talking about? Are you American?
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:16 AM
 
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Nice post. I can't rep you again apparently. By promoting the victim narrative the left does blacks a disservice. Just give them more free stuff... that's their answer for everything. Don't encourage them to take responsibility for their lives... divert the blame onto externals. It's someone ELSES fault I am the way I am... bull.
Where the nuance is, is that you can't just ignore the problem, which a lot of people on the right do with stating what you state and then dismissing taking any action at all to deal with the issue of a landed generational black underclass that is disproportionate to that of whites.

What the current militant black/woke narrative tell us is that we can only deal with this issue by deconstructing everything about America because it is rotten to the core. We can't fix the issues in black communities, so we need to tear the country down and re-build with with blacks as a preferred class in all aspects of life, and any area where black people fail or fall behind HAS to be deemed as racist and that too turned upside down. Black people do more poorly at math? Change math requirements.

It's destructive and stupid mentality that has existed on college campuses for decades...it's now mainstream and it's leads to disastrous consequences.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:17 AM
 
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You guys love the Bell Curve and that BS by Carlton Putnam. Its not a big deal that black people are on welfare. What is a big deal is most of the people on welfare are white. Haven't white people been in the United States as free people with every opportunity afforded them for 400 years? Yet many are still criminals and in poverty. If they can't do it why such high expectations for an oppressed once enslaved minority group? The way this thread has meandered ( as usual) to a black bashing thread is precisely why black people just want to be left alone to kneel quietly and sing a song about hope once a year.
On one hand, you say blacks just want to be left alone; yet on the other, you accuse every white who objects to the Black National Anthem being sung at the Super Bowl, and a black poet, and the sole entertainer at half-time is black, and a black woman has to mangle.....oops, sing....the National Anthem, etc., etc. We had one token white boy (a rural country boy) have a role, but other than that, the pre-show and entertainment was almost entirely focused on black people.

And this isn’t a black-bashing thread, although apparently anytime whites object to this over-the-top reaction to a false narrative, and this focus on blacks to the extent an alien would think whites are a minority in this country, the way the work crowd hush them up is to scream racism.
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:18 AM
 
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Our state is only about 5% black. So the rest of the 15% are Asian or Somali or Latino or Native or whatever.


You keep on making excuses. We all know what is going on in America.
Somalis are placed in the “black” category. What percentage are Somali? Also, what percentage of the Latino population is black there, if any significant number?
 
Old 02-08-2021, 10:19 AM
 
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Lol, god, people are just sniveling babies. Grow up already.
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