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Old 02-24-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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Because he said he would release them.

Nothing is more important than character, and the non release is yet another example of Trump’s lack of character.
Obama said we could keep our doctor, and our health care plan. And the average American would spend $2500 less for insurance.

Oh well.

 
Old 02-24-2021, 09:44 AM
 
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I demand you show me your tax returns! I believe you are hiding something!

See, I can use your logic, too. Guilty until proven innocent.........
What part of criminal investigation don't people get ?
 
Old 02-24-2021, 10:59 AM
 
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What part of criminal investigation don't people get ?
Except, the entire time trump was in office, the anti-trumpers said because he was not showing his tax returns, he is guilty....you were here for the last 4 years, yes?
 
Old 02-24-2021, 11:19 AM
 
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Maybe because a person's tax returns are their own business...... Just a thought......
Except....they're not. First off, even if you don't use an accountant, they're shared with the Federal and State governments. Second, if there's a subpoena for those records, they must be turned over. Third, there's a friggin' LAW that says it's not anyone's "own business". "Congress may request copies of anyone's tax returns. The treasury secretary is legally obliged to provide the tax returns, and there is no apparent legal mechanism to deny Congress's request.".

And, besides, if you did nothing wrong, what does it matter? It's exoneration unless you know you're guilty.
 
Old 02-24-2021, 11:29 AM
 
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No, voters aren’t entitled to know that....but if the candidate intends to keep that private by not releasing his/her returns, we are entitled to know about that refusal to release before the election if the candidate is asked about it.

So if a POTUS owes 3 billion to Russia or any country, do you think that POTUS can effectively govern given the conflict of interest? I don't, that should be a disqualification!
 
Old 02-24-2021, 11:35 AM
 
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It is quite likely that Donald Trump is keeping his tax records secret just to annoy people on the Left. Everything that's been illegally leaked thus far indicates that he generally makes a lot of money and pays a lot of taxes. The public at large does not have the right to see anyone's tax records. That would be an invasion of their constitutionally protected privacy. The weird tradition by life-long politicians to released their tax records after winning the nomination from their party ... well it's weird. It also affords a significant unfair advantage to establishment swamp creatures who have been politicians or aspiring politicians for their entire life. They can pretty things up in preparation for the day that they might have play show and tell with their tax records. They can load up on charitable donations, refuse to take any tax breaks, pay a little more than they owe, etc. Meanwhile, the rest of us try to pay as little as legally possible. Sometimes we make mistakes and owe the IRS money. Most of us lack access to the kinds of accountants dedicated to prettying things up for us. The tradition keeps the corrupt establishment in power and political outsiders out of government. With that in mind, is the tradition of releasing your tax records even useful?

If some great crime was committed by an individual, they'd never make it far enough to be their party's nominee. If there's some crime lurking in their records, the IRS would have already dealt with it a very long time ago.

The State of New York is on a fishing expedition purely on the basis of "Orange Man Bad!!!"
 
Old 02-24-2021, 11:45 AM
 
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A man with nothing to hide, hides nothing.


Trump became the only major party presidential candidate in the post-Watergate era to never release any of his tax returns.
tradition is not the reason he should reveal his tax returns.

his promise to release them as soon as they were done auditing it (which is a dumb reason but whatever) is why he should reveal them.
he's hiding something, whether it be foul play, or something embarrassing.
 
Old 02-24-2021, 11:47 AM
 
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Why has Donald Trump fought so hard to keep his tax returns secret?

Maybe because he is an unethical, immoral, criminal who has committed punishable offenses against society.


#LawAndOrder
 
Old 02-24-2021, 11:50 AM
 
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Maybe because a person's tax returns are their own business...... Just a thought......
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What billionaire wants his financial dealings in the public eye? We we act like it's a sin to be rich.

In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country badly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.
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Maybe because they are not anyone's business. Do you want to show us your taxes?
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Why has Donald Trump fought so hard to keep his tax returns secret?


I keep mine secret. Why shouldn't he?
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It's no one's business. He probably also understands that many will be simply jealous.
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Possibly because it is none of your business.
then he shouldn't have stated that he would show them.
 
Old 02-24-2021, 11:52 AM
 
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Maybe because he is an unethical, immoral, criminal who has committed punishable offenses against society.


#LawAndOrder
Bingo! And I'm pretty sure that the State of New York has better things to do than comb through this if they didn't have a pretty darn good reason.
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