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Old 12-09-2021, 11:23 PM
 
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wow, what would you have done and how much would you have posted if I had also given snippets of CA, Mississippi, Florida, NY, etc on fetal homicide laws ... Good lord, what are you trying to prove? States also regulate abortion laws, as well. So you're going to have do better ... than there are exceptions.

Your post about the law was incomplete. I helped. Why does that upset you?

 
Old 12-09-2021, 11:37 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell View Post
wow, what would you have done and how much would you have posted if I had also given snippets of CA, Mississippi, Florida, NY, etc on fetal homicide laws ... Good lord, what are you trying to prove? States also regulate abortion laws, as well. So you're going to have do better ... than there are exceptions.
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Your post about the law was incomplete. I helped. Why does that upset you?
May be, because you gave a lousy argument. States regulate all their laws and ...
 
Old 12-09-2021, 11:42 PM
 
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I wonder how many different SC opinions will be written in Jackson vs State of Mississippi, and who will sign on to each one.
 
Old 12-09-2021, 11:45 PM
 
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May be, because you gave a lousy argument. States regulate all their laws and ...

You shouldn't upset so easily. Those exceptions are part of the law you cited.
 
Old 12-09-2021, 11:54 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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May be, because you gave a lousy argument. States regulate all their laws and ...
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You shouldn't upset so easily. Those exceptions are part of the law you cited.
States also regulate abortion, so what is your point? The precedent in fetal homicide is in every State. If you're a lawyer going into a court room, you'd need to know these things. Are you a lawyer?
 
Old 12-10-2021, 06:28 AM
 
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They exist in every State ...

Code of Virginia
§ 18.2-32.2. Killing a fetus; penalty.

A. Any person who unlawfully, willfully, deliberately, maliciously and with premeditation kills the fetus of another is guilty of a Class 2 felony.

B. Any person who unlawfully, willfully, deliberately and maliciously kills the fetus of another is guilty of a felony punishable by confinement in a state correctional facility for not less than five nor more than 40 years.


In State law, there is precedent.
The other poster claims that fetal homicide laws set a precedent for banning abortion. That's patently ridiculous since

a) laws don't set precedents, judges interpreting laws do
b) all of those laws include exceptions for abortion
 
Old 12-10-2021, 06:36 AM
 
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So, it sounds like you would quite strongly support laws that would put women on trial for murder who got abortions.
You are the only one I've ever heard demand that women who have abortions get tried and convicted of murder.

Never heard/seen of this "idea" anywhere else. Only from you.

If you feel so strongly about this that no one should be jailed for killing a baby, are you fighting all the states that have fetal homicide laws? Running and screaming at them to change those laws when babies are killed so no one goes to jail? Looking to even the playing filed so no one anywhere who kills babies gets jailed?

Because that seems to be your story. You keep sticking to it, just obsessed with the idea.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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You are the only one I've ever heard demand that women who have abortions get tried and convicted of murder.

Never heard/seen of this "idea" anywhere else. Only from you.

If you feel so strongly about this that no one should be jailed for killing a baby, are you fighting all the states that have fetal homicide laws? Running and screaming at them to change those laws when babies are killed so no one goes to jail? Looking to even the playing filed so no one anywhere who kills babies gets jailed?

Because that seems to be your story. You keep sticking to it, just obsessed with the idea.
Why are you avoiding answering the question? If you think abortion is murder, then what should be the punishment for the woman? And for the doctor?

Simple question.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 06:44 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You have no idea what is coming your way lol.
Nothing. Americans are FAR more worried that MORE people dying from COVID, their paychecks go a LOT less further now, and violent crime rates have skyrocketed, all under Dem leadership.

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Women have a right to control their reproductive destiny. It is not a perceived right.
They have no more right to that than Americans have the right to keep and bear arms without state restrictions. If states can restrict Constitutional gun rights, and they do (even red states do), they can also restrict any perceived right to abortion.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 06:47 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Mighty nice of them to make it official that Roe goes the way of Plessy vs Ferguson next year.

Yep.
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