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Old 12-22-2021, 02:16 PM
 
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Are you still ignoring the fact that for some people, the sex drive is stronger than any thoughts of birth control?

Are you still ignoring the fact that most people are not perfect?
Your argument now is that because people aren't perfect it's OK to kill someone else?

You just keep scrambling around and doubling down ...

 
Old 12-22-2021, 02:24 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Your argument now is that because people aren't perfect it's OK to kill someone else?
Yes, that IS in fact their argument.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Exactly. If men don't need abortions, neither do women.

Men don't need hysterectomies either.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 02:40 PM
 
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Men don't need hysterectomies either.
All the more reason to make sure that 2 forms of BC are used, right?
 
Old 12-22-2021, 02:49 PM
 
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What is your suggestion for the poor family that cannot afford the children they have? Suck it up and eat less? Move from a crappy house to a cardboard shack?

It's the same situation. Whether you understand that or not. Are you in favor of killing children to solve an economic problem?
The notion of killing a child that is not at the embryo or fetal stage is ridiculous, and is not the same at all. Why do you conflate killing a 6 year old with an abortion? Is that something you support?
 
Old 12-22-2021, 02:51 PM
 
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The notion of killing a child that is not at the embryo or fetal stage is ridiculous, and is not the same at all. Why do you conflate killing a 6 year old with an abortion? Is that something you support?
The family has one less child, right?

Amounts to the same thing. Explain the difference, and why you are in favor of one type of killing, but not the other.

You keep bringing up the economic reason as rationale for abortion: So poor she can't AFFORD one more kid. Well, what if she already had kids and lost her job? Does she get to kill one of them, just like you support her getting an abortion?
 
Old 12-22-2021, 02:54 PM
 
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Doesn't excuse having an abortion.
It is none of your business whether a woman has an abortion. Are you in favor of executing women who have abortions? Do you think pregnant women should be locked up until they give birth, just to prevent abortions? If your daughter was gang raped and became pregnant, would you force her to give birth, while reliving the horror of her rape every day? If your crazy brother raped your 11 year old daughter, and she became pregnant, would you force her to give birth?

Half the abortions in the US are for women who live under the poverty line. Do you think that it's OK that women with access to money can travel to another state and get an abortion, while the poor women just have to give birth to a baby they may not be able to support? Do you think states should prosecute women who travel elsewhere to get an abortion?

How is it any of your business whether another woman has an abortion? Hint, it's not.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 02:55 PM
 
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The family has one less child, right?

Amounts to the same thing. Explain the difference, and why you are in favor of one type of killing, but not the other.

You keep bringing up the economic reason as rationale for abortion: So poor she can't AFFORD one more kid. Well, what if she already had kids and lost her job? Does she get to kill one of them, just like you support her getting an abortion?
You asked before. Yes she gets to kill her least favorite.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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All the more reason to make sure that 2 forms of BC are used, right?

Wish that had worked for me.I was also told I would need intervention because chemo and PCOS impacted my fertility.


Still got pregnant. Still had an abortion. Still looked at what left my body and knew it wasn't a baby.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 03:30 PM
 
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Are you still ignoring the fact that for some people, the sex drive is stronger than any thoughts of birth control?

Are you still ignoring the fact that most people are not perfect?
Ah, so you admit that these women are getting pregnant because their sex drive is so strong that it overrides responsibility? Sounds pretty immature to me. What about using an ungoing birth control pill then they won't have to think about birth control when they give in to their wild desires spontaniously? Is that out of the question? If so, why?
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