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"But even with Delta, the overall risks for the vaccinated remain extremely small. As Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of California, San Francisco, wrote on Friday, “The messaging over the last month in the U.S. has basically served to terrify the vaccinated and make unvaccinated eligible adults doubt the effectiveness of the vaccines.” Neither of those views is warranted."
Completely wrong. Using that logic we should not have speed limits, stop signs, or traffic signals. Freedom is not an unlimited concept. When your freedom impacts others it is the DUTY for government to step in. That is what a free country means.
This has been discussed ad nauseum, but since you missed it, I’ll recap.
There are certain factors we all agree to in order to participate in society. Agreed upon road signals is one of them. You agree to abide by these rules when you voluntarily get your driver’s license. If you do not wish to follow road laws, you can choose not to drive.
This is what we need to do in order to have a civilization. Road rules don’t favor one driver over another; everyone benefits equally.
We do not benefit equally, however, if I ask you to compromise your health in order to protect me.. It then becomes morally repugnant for the government to step in, to favor me over you.
Moreover, equating road rules to forced injection of an untested substance is ridiculous.
The viral load expelled from people that have been vaccinated is measurably lower.
Why can't you recognize that fact?
The chances of having bigger complications are significantly lower, if vaccinated.
Why can't you recognize that fact?
The more this virus gets passed around by ignoring the above, increases the chances of it mutating and becoming more resistant to our current safety measures / vaccines. Which eventually leads to moving the goal posts to deal with it.
Why can't you recognize that fact?
For a vast majority of people, the vaccine is a huge boost to survivability, helps reduce the possibility to spread, and to help put this under control.
Why can't you recognize that fact?
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Where is the empirical data to support your silly assertions?
This has been discussed ad nauseum, but since you missed it, I’ll recap.
There are certain factors we all agree to in order to participate in society. Agreed upon road signals is one of them. You agree to abide by these rules when you voluntarily get your driver’s license. If you do not wish to follow road laws, you can choose not to drive.
This is what we need to do in order to have a civilization. Road rules don’t favor one driver over another; everyone benefits equally.
We do not benefit equally, however, if I ask you to compromise your health in order to protect me.. It then becomes morally repugnant for the government to step in, to favor me over you.
Moreover, equating road rules to forced injection of an untested substance is ridiculous.
It is not ridiculous in the least bit and we already do it for many vaccines in children. If you get infected you can infect other people. That makes it the DUTY of the government to take action. I am not in favor of forced vaccination, I am in favor of restrictions on people who are not vaccinated when they can impact other people. Want to go to a movie, football game, restaurant, etc. get vaccinated. That is what a free country means.
Interestingly enough, European countries are moving away from vaccine mandates and towards treatment. The UK’s head virologist why vaccines are a futile effort:
Really important comment comes at the one minute, 15 second mark...
This week we will have about 65,000 deaths. But 4 billion doses of the vaccine have been given out globally. That is enough to have prevented almost all of those deaths.
It is not ridiculous in the least bit and we already do it for many vaccines in children. If you get infected you can infect other people. That makes it the DUTY of the government to take action. I am not in favor of forced vaccination, I am in favor of restrictions on people who are not vaccinated when they can impact other people. Want to go to a movie, football game, restaurant, etc. get vaccinated. That is what a free country means.
LOL, that is not what a free country means.
Watch this. It is 90 seconds long, from the chief virologist in the UK. The vaccines aren’t working. The vaccinated are spreading the virus too.
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