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Old 10-27-2021, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Stupid argument. There is nothing wrong with technological displacement of human workers. The problem is the lack of planning ahead that is typical in America. The point of technology should be so it can enable people to have other pursuits, more time for friends and family and to take care of health.

The work week or day should be shortened without taking a away from wages.
I think there is, I like what I do, have been doing it for years, and pays me good money. I don't want to have to go back to the drawing board and lose everything I worked so hard for and start over
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Old 10-27-2021, 03:01 PM
 
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I think there is, I like what I do, have been doing it for years, and pays me good money. I don't want to have to go back to the drawing board and lose everything I worked so hard for and start over
I suspect if you have had to work to get to a certain level -- you are not likely going to be replaced in the near future.

The types of jobs being automated are not ones where years of experience and skill are necessary.
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Old 10-27-2021, 04:35 PM
 
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Why not just admit that such a business model doesn't exist?

Outside of government anyways.

Because government is the only employer that can sustain it's existence while paying it's employees more than the value of their labor.

With your taxes BTW.

Such a business model doesn't exist, because the fair market value of anything is the price that it will bear. It would be literally impossible to pay someone more than than the market value of their labor, because as soon as you do, that is the market value.



High-skill government workers are paid less than the prevailing rate, low-skill government workers probably a little more. It balances out. Jamie Dimon isn't worth $20 million a year to anyone, but its what he gets paid
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Old 10-27-2021, 04:52 PM
 
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The rich might yank their heads out of their asses when they see the guillotenes and the pitchforks sharpening.

History shows that when inequality goes too far violent events happen.

This is why FDR is by far the greatest president. By improving the safety net and providing jobs when the private sector failed he prevented a descent into communism or fascism like other countries did at that time.
ARe you making threats of violence? Merrick Garland might want to know about that. Or maybe he just cares about parents griping at school board meetings?
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Old 10-27-2021, 04:54 PM
 
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A majority of the populace disagree with you on the bolded
I don't disagree. Prove your point.
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Old 10-27-2021, 04:55 PM
 
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That's not true. Several countries offer single payer healthcare and subsidized college, and their citizenry aren't lazy
And in those countries you think are so great, EVERYONE PAYS INCOME TAXES. Not just rich people.
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Old 10-27-2021, 04:58 PM
 
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A woman in town, who I know personally, is getting $$, food, Healthcare, transportation, rent, etc. from every state and government agency. She is "on disability" for what I do not understand. She shops for hours and buys cartloads of clothes and food thanks to you and I. On top of everything, she is a hoarder and master manipulator. Another young woman, who is doing community service due to drugs, had children taken away from her, and is on every available program also. Guess what? She's pregnant again and I doubt if she is 30. It is a way of life for many and a burden on the taxpayer. The Democraps continue to fund more and more programs so the dependency on the government grows and allowing illegal aliens to come into the country, given food, shelter and benefits, adds to their census numbers and therefore more representatives.
My sister in law told me she would love to go take some exercise classes but her neighbors would rat her out and she could no longer get her disability.
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Old 10-27-2021, 05:09 PM
 
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That's a lovely sentiment. Feel free to give poor people some of your own money to help them with their needs. But stay the hell away from my wallet.
I am staying away from your wallet. I'm calling for taxing the wealth of the ultra-rich. No one on this forum would be impacted. There are six individual people who have more wealth than half the world's population combined. An example, Elon Musk could personally eliminate all medical debt for everyone in the US and still be one of the 10 wealthiest people in the world. We're talking about taxation for people at that level. Imagine the benefit to the economy if everyone currently crushed under medical debt could suddenly start spending and investing that money.

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Old 10-27-2021, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Just when do liberals say: “the government can’t spend my money better than I can spend it myself.”
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Old 10-27-2021, 10:52 PM
 
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I am staying away from your wallet. I'm calling for taxing the wealth of the ultra-rich. No one on this forum would be impacted. There are six individual people who have more wealth than half the world's population combined. An example, Elon Musk could personally eliminate all medical debt for everyone in the US and still be one of the 10 wealthiest people in the world. We're talking about taxation for people at that level. Imagine the benefit to the economy if everyone currently crushed under medical debt could suddenly start spending and investing that money.
But you do know that wealth is not the same as income, right? Elon Musk is estimated at $250 bils does not mean he has literally that much in cash. I doubt that any of the billionaires have literally billions in cash.
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