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Old 10-28-2021, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by FordBronco1967 View Post
That's because Americans bear tens of thousands of dollars in taxes...
Do you expect government workers to work for nothing?
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Old 10-28-2021, 10:17 AM
 
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Do you expect government workers to work for nothing?
I expect there to be fewer of them.
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Old 10-28-2021, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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First of all, it's not taken, because taxes aren't theft. And second, redistribution is the only way to fix massive inequality. Laissez-faire Capitalism unchecked just makes it worse and worse, and eventually turns out like a game of monopoly, with one winner and everyone else a loser. Then, you end up with neo-feudalism


Any taxes collected and used for purposes not specifically allowed by the Constitution is tantamount to theft.

Taxes used for national defense are not theft.

Taxes used to provide birth control to people who can easily afford a condom IS theft.


Again, you have no arguments that aren't based on emotions and hyperbole.
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Old 10-28-2021, 10:22 AM
 
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Look, not enough people donate to charity, so it could never be the sole funder of social programs. And it's because of the scarcity mentality that we all have. The vast majority of Americans don't have enough disposable income to donate to charity without it hurting their own quality of life. That's reality. So you have to do compulsory taxation to get the necessary money



Compulsory charity is theft.

Again you have no arguments that are not based on emotions and hyperbole.
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Old 10-28-2021, 10:25 AM
 
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Do you expect government workers to work for nothing?
Get rid of unnecessary, unconstitutional and superfluous government programs and you wouldn't have nearly as many government workers to pay.......

(Or provide them with Cadillac insurance policies)
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Old 10-28-2021, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Any taxes collected and used for purposes not specifically allowed by the Constitution is tantamount to theft.

Taxes used for national defense are not theft.

Taxes used to provide birth control to people who can easily afford a condom IS theft.


Again, you have no arguments that aren't based on emotions and hyperbole.
To you, it's theft to you. Didn't know you were the arbiter.....
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Old 10-28-2021, 10:26 AM
 
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To you, it's theft to you. Didn't know you were the arbiter.....
I'm not.

The Constitution is.
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Old 10-28-2021, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I'm not.

The Constitution is.
Hint, it's not 1787 anymore, and besides the Constitution has been amended constantly
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Old 10-28-2021, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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I am staying away from your wallet. I'm calling for taxing the wealth of the ultra-rich. No one on this forum would be impacted. There are six individual people who have more wealth than half the world's population combined. An example, Elon Musk could personally eliminate all medical debt for everyone in the US and still be one of the 10 wealthiest people in the world. We're talking about taxation for people at that level. Imagine the benefit to the economy if everyone currently crushed under medical debt could suddenly start spending and investing that money.
Elon Musk is not obligated to help anyone.
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Old 10-28-2021, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Elon Musk is not obligated to help anyone.
I could argue he's also not obligated to hurt anyone and should stop with the self driving nonsense (which will eventually cost millions of jobs to his personal profit)
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