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Old 02-10-2022, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Most successful head coaches have a HOF QB.

What is your point?

Zach Taylor was 4-12 without Burrow last year. Now he is in a SB.

A good QB makes a coach look good. This isn’t a secret.

But Tomlin has shown he can win with MR and Duck in 2019 and almost made the playoffs. That is the sign of good coaching.
Point is Tomlin has had one his entire head coaching career, has had great players, and only has 1 SB win and only 3 playoff wins in the last 11 seasons. Without a franchise/HOF qb he’s going to be worse…and he has way too much control of the Stillers decision making. He’s hot his expiration date years ago.

Except he couldn’t and almost means nothing.

Where’s your stats to prove your statement about black coaches having a better win percentage than white coaches?

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Old 02-10-2022, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Marlton, NJ
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I’m happier most teams that win the SB are 70% Black.

yeah, see how silly that sounds.
Everybody knows it's the QB that counts.
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Old 02-10-2022, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Marlton, NJ
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Point is Tomlin has had one his entire head coaching career, has had great players, and only has 1 SB win and only 3 playoff wins in the last 11 seasons. Without a franchise/HOF qb he’s going to be worse…and he has way too much control of the Stillers decision making. He’s hot his expiration date years ago.

Except he couldn’t and almost means nothing.

Where’s your stats to prove your statement about black coaches having a better win percentage than white coaches?
He doesn't even understand what it takes to be a coach in the league.
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Old 02-10-2022, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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He doesn't even understand what it takes to be a coach in the league.
Bingo…and he’s continuing to try to defend a coach that has only 3 playoff wins in 11 seasons. The Stillers don’t fire coaches or he’d gone…and they still haven’t posted stats to their allegation.

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Old 02-10-2022, 05:08 PM
 
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Bingo…and he’s continuing to try to defend a coach that has only 3 playoff wins in 11 seasons. The Stillers don’t fire coaches or he’d gone…and they still haven’t posted stats to their allegation.
Lifelong Stillers fan here, and Tomlin is overrated. Then again, look at Cowher's record, and where the big game versus the premier names like Manning, Brady et al are concerned, he wasn't all that great either.

Ben's crazy talent and luck got them over more than once. I put both behind a guy like Schottenheimer, who won 10-12 games a year but could never get it done in the playoffs. Buffalo is headed that way, where Josh Allen's raw talent and some decent luck is making bad coaching look way better than it should. Their defense piled up stats based on an offense that controls the ball well, but got exposed BADLY against any good offense.

But yeah, Tomlin will have his job for life. If he ends up as just a head floating in a tank, he'll still be the head coach. The inventors of the racist Rooney Rule will never fire a black coach.
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Old 02-10-2022, 05:11 PM
 
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What's complicating this is that we are relying on people's judgment to achieve diversity. Achieving diversity will always be more complicated if you are relying on people's judgment to achieve it.
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Old 02-10-2022, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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What's complicating this is that we are relying on people's judgment to achieve diversity. Achieving diversity will always be more complicated if you are relying on people's judgment to achieve it.
If folks want to tell others how to run their business, they should start their own business and do so. This isn’t government nonsense, this is the NFL.

Hilarious how folks think they have the right to tell others how to spend their money.
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Old 02-11-2022, 06:06 AM
 
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White men are pretty good at producing Super Bowl winning quarterbacks. There's only been one full black QB to lead his team to a SB victory.
White men are also producing the best tight ends in the league and one even produced the best wide receiver in the league.
A white man produced the NFL sack leader, too.

You obviously have no idea what it takes to be an NFL coach. Quit embarrassing yourself.

Black guys need to start producing kids who can outcoach the white kids. Valuing education would be a good start.
"Valuing education would be a good start."

"Dexter Manley After his career in the United States ended, he revealed that he was functionally illiterate, despite having studied at Oklahoma State University for four years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_Manley
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Old 02-11-2022, 06:10 AM
 
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Dennis Allen was just hired by the Saints as the head coach. His record as a head coach is 8-28.

YOU obviously have no idea what it takes to be a head coach.

Since the Rooney Rule was created Black coaches have a higher regular season winning percentage than white coaches.

We have produced a ton of qualified candidates to be head coaches. Its just up to the league to give them the same chances to fail as these white head coaches. Black head coaches.

and yes, there are good white players in the NFL. No one is denying it. The problem is people like you don’t want to believe there are also good Black coaches.
"Its just up to the league to give them the same chances to fail as these white head coaches. Black head coaches."

In today's world only an idiot would think ANY NFL owner would NOT hire an excellent black coach.

Their ONLY objective, is to WIN and the could care less what color the coach is.

As I posted earlier, "" TIDES NFL Racial Report Card Scores Category Grade Overall Racial Hiring B+ Race of NFL Players A+ Head Coaches D+ Assistant CoachesA+"

In case you didn't know many asst coaches become head coaches. In fact, I don't know of a single head coach who was NOT an assistant coach.
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Old 02-11-2022, 06:17 AM
 
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Dennis Allen was just hired by the Saints as the head coach. His record as a head coach is 8-28.

YOU obviously have no idea what it takes to be a head coach.

Since the Rooney Rule was created Black coaches have a higher regular season winning percentage than white coaches.

We have produced a ton of qualified candidates to be head coaches. Its just up to the league to give them the same chances to fail as these white head coaches. Black head coaches.

and yes, there are good white players in the NFL. No one is denying it. The problem is people like you don’t want to believe there are also good Black coaches.
"The problem is people like you don’t want to believe there are also good Black coaches"

Your problem is you actually believe this garbage!

"Racists see racism in EVERYTHING", as they say!
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