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Sure, when the most common weapon used for homicide is dousing the victim in gasoline and lighting them on fire with a match, then I'm sure they will be regulated as well.
But it won't be, because firearms are far more effective as a weapon than gas and a match.
Let's try and use better analogies mmkay?
Only folks with limited intelligence don't think you can support the 2A and responsible gun ownership laws at the same time.
But it doesn't really matter to me either way. There is no hope for this country when it comes to curbing gun violence so I honestly DGAF about the whole gun debate.
There's a big difference between dousing someone with gasoline and setting them on fire than tossing a Molotov cocktail into a crowd. You do know what a Molotov cocktail is or don't you? Hint: It's not something you get at a bar. You can easily kill just as many people as you would if you opened fire on them with a gun. During the Happyland Fire in 1990 87 people were killed with what was a dollars worth of gasoline at the time a container and a match. Which is 28 more than what Paddock killed with a bunch of AR 15's equipped with bump stocks, thousands of rounds of ammunition, firing from a hotel window into a crowd of 22,000. Only folks with limited intelligence couldn't tell the difference.
Let's try and use better analogies mmkay?
mmkay? Since it doesn't really matter to you either way and you honestly DGAF about the whole gun debate, then why are you on this forum debating about it? Only folks with limited intelligence would do that. Especially when they can't even recognize their own hypocrisy and put it on display for all the world to read. mmkay?
Last edited by Ex New Yorker; 04-22-2022 at 09:49 PM..
That's not the way the laws and court system work in this country. It has NEVER been the responsibility of the innocent person to PROVE his innocence on ANY type of alleged crime. The burden has ALWAYS been on the prosecution to prove that the accused was GUILTY, not on the innocent to prove his innocence.
If you are worried about who you're selling a gun to, then perhaps you shouldn't sell to them. Or, simply write up a Bill of Sale stating that the buyer affirms that he/she is legally able to own and possess the gun that they are buying from you. Then have them sign the Bill of Sale and attach a photo copy of his/her driver's license showing that they are a resident of the same state. If the buyer is lying, then it is the buyer who is committing the crime, not you.
You live in a fantasy world if you think what you said above. The fact is 85% state and 95% federal juries convict. It will cost you 50k for a good criminal attorney take it all the way to trial. Prosecutors have unlimited resources this is why most take plea deals. The real world is your guilty until proven innocent Juries are made up of people who don't have law degrees and have difficult time understanding the law yet they are sitting in judgement. You think Juries judge without preconceived ideas.
Have you not yet figured out, that gun laws are not effective in the least?
Just look at any shooting headline in the news...MANY happen in 'gun free zones' for petes sake. LOL How can this be so mysterious to so many?
The govt has ensured that the criminals have the upper hand in these gun free zones, its that simple...its like if the govt put out a weekly list of people that would be out of town or traveling, (so criminals could pick the best time to break into their homes to steal)...its the exact same thing, gun free zones RESTRICT the law abiding from being able to defend themselves, how else is that explained?
Besides that, citizens can literally make their own machine guns, (without a whole lot of expensive equipment or training, (an open bolt, slam fire machine gun)...its much easier to build a machine gun, than a semi automatic...keeping that in mind...how can ANY gun law be effective when anyone can make their own? LOL (are they going to start restricting the sale of metal/steel to citizens? (that is the only way they could truly prevent citizens from making their own), but that would be impossible anyway, scrap metal is literally lying around everywhere.
I support all gun sales to go though federal firearms license holders. I also support increasing the number of FFL's. ATF spent lot of years getting rid of FFLS who operated out of their homes not sure if that is still the case now.
The reason I support transfers though an FFL because it's the only way to prove you had nothing to do with that firearm after it left your control.
The ATF has and can visit you after recovering that gun lets say you sold that gun to someone at a gun show because you bought the gun new from a FFL the serial number will always lead to you. Now the ATF has arrested that person that you did a private sale to who is claiming you knew the gun was going to a criminal try and work out a plea deal? If you go though an FFL the responsibility is on them to follow the law you have proof because the serial number was recorded in his book. If the ATF visits you simply point them to the FFL you transferred the gun though.
Only if you apply all over 20,000 anti-guns laws to the 1st Amendment also!
Think about that for a while.
It would take at least 2 weeks for your post to be approved BEFORE it could appear for all to see.
Do you believe in our Constitution?
"The RIGHT to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed"!
Not possible. A father gives or sells a gun to his son. Does he have to run a BACKGROUND CHECK on him?
Guns are legal property. We are allowed to sell our legal property to others without conducting a background check on them.
The vast majority of gun sales go through the FFL process when purchased NEW. But once a firearm is private property, there is absolutely zero legal precedent for not allowing someone to sell LEGAL PROPERTY to someone else in a private sale.
It's simply impossible to police this, and this is why it simply can't be done.
Also, there is no database of "serial numbers" pointing to individuals. That's almost impossible to maintain or to hold up in court.
Sorry.
Unless you buy through an FFL. The ATF 4733 has the SN of the firearm and the buyer and seller info.
I support all gun sales to go though federal firearms license holders. I also support increasing the number of FFL's. ATF spent lot of years getting rid of FFLS who operated out of their homes not sure if that is still the case now.
The reason I support transfers though an FFL because it's the only way to prove you had nothing to do with that firearm after it left your control.
The ATF has and can visit you after recovering that gun lets say you sold that gun to someone at a gun show because you bought the gun new from a FFL the serial number will always lead to you. Now the ATF has arrested that person that you did a private sale to who is claiming you knew the gun was going to a criminal try and work out a plea deal? If you go though an FFL the responsibility is on them to follow the law you have proof because the serial number was recorded in his book. If the ATF visits you simply point them to the FFL you transferred the gun though.
Only if you apply all over 20,000 anti-guns laws to the 1st Amendment also!
Think about that for a while.
It would take at least 2 weeks for your post to be approved BEFORE it could appear for all to see.
Do you believe in our Constitution?
"The RIGHT to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed"!
Constitution isn't worth the paper it was printed on why do I believe this because depending on the political leaning of judges who sit on the supreme court laws are determined to be constitutional or not.
Example is during WW2 citizens born in America were forcibly taken from their homes and put in concentration camps purely based on their race. It was challenged as unconstitutional the supreme court of the time rubber stamped it as constitutional.
The Gun control act of 1968 isn't going anywhere as long as that firearm linked to me I will never do a private sale if your doing private sales your a fool. Some here have claimed a receipt is good enough you need a 3rd party with a legal record of the transaction to prove you had nothing to do with where that firearm ended up.
I support all gun sales to go though federal firearms license holders. I also support increasing the number of FFL's. ATF spent lot of years getting rid of FFLS who operated out of their homes not sure if that is still the case now.
The reason I support transfers though an FFL because it's the only way to prove you had nothing to do with that firearm after it left your control.
Criminals don’t care, that’s why they’re called criminals.
One day the left will understand this.
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