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Old 05-03-2022, 07:32 PM
 
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It's not that slim, attractive women don't w40re around, that's not what I'm saying, just that they are considerably less likely to do so than obese, not so attractive women.

Remember the Maury Povich show that would air on daytime TV, with some skanky woman sorting through multiple men trying to find their "baby daddy?' How many of those broads were slim and attractive? LOL.
I think on the subject you probably know more than I do as I'm not in that particular dating scene at all.

Keep in mind Maury povich is like pornography it's not real it's meant to be shocking and it's meant to stimulate something deep instinctual component in us it's not meant to be a reflection on reality.

Before that until it's Jerry Springer and when Jerry Springer was real popular they didn't just do baby mama drama would invite heavy metal bands and ku Klux Klan members and all sorts of other wacky nonsense on to their show this was your brother entertaining but at the time I was a teenager. It's not a reflection of reality.

So with the big girl slim girl thing I don't know

 
Old 05-03-2022, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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I think on the subject you probably know more than I do as I'm not in that particular dating scene at all.

Keep in mind Maury povich is like pornography it's not real it's meant to be shocking and it's meant to stimulate something deep instinctual component in us it's not meant to be a reflection on reality.

Before that until it's Jerry Springer and when Jerry Springer was real popular they didn't just do baby mama drama would invite heavy metal bands and ku Klux Klan members and all sorts of other wacky nonsense on to their show this was your brother entertaining but at the time I was a teenager. It's not a reflection of reality.

So with the big girl slim girl thing I don't know
There have been actual studies done on this:

https://www.aarp.org/home-family/sex...-more-sex.html

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Sex: When and How Many: Very physically attractive women are more likely to form exclusive relationships than purely sexual ones, and are less likely to have sexual intercourse within the first week of meeting a partner. Presumably, says McClintock, this difference arises because these women use their greater power in the partner market to control their relationships.

Number of Partners: For women, the number of sexual partners decreases as physical attractiveness increases, whereas for men, the number of sexual partners increases with increasing physical attractiveness.

Body Type and Sex: The number of sexual partners reported by women is tied to weight, with thinner women reporting fewer partners.

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Old 05-03-2022, 08:03 PM
 
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There have been actual studies done on this:

https://www.aarp.org/home-family/sex...-more-sex.html
Like I said you'd probably know a lot more about that than I do. I spent terminal way different dating pool
 
Old 05-03-2022, 10:20 PM
 
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This is America. Pick yourself by your bootstraps and engage in capitalism. Internet access is not that costly and if a man can tell you divorce statistics and red pill info what is stopping him from taking a coding boot camp or e-commerce business?

I’m going to repeat again. At EVERY sports event you see on the Jumbotron couples smiling and holding each other. These are not celebrities or even rich wealthy aristocrats. The guy who is the manager of McDonald’s can be found at a McDonald’s game with his wife. Why?

I hate this “why play a game I’m bound to lose” narrative from red pillers.

EVERYTHING in this life is a gamble. Starting a business is a gamble. Investing in stocks is a gamble. Creating apps are a gamble. Bike riding and driving is a gamble. The point is you make an informed and thought out decision before you doing it. Just like dating.
You seem confused, and quite young. First, I’m not complaining about my life, and don’t need to pull myself up from anywhere. I was simply shedding light on the raw deal guys are getting in this modern progressive utopian nightmare leftists have created, and what I believe are the driving causes. And to be honest, it’s not just the guys I feel bad for, but the women too. They aren’t happy either, given the horrific statistics, which clearly show that. But you believe you can cite some anecdotal examples that show happy couples at a football game, as if that actually means anything? Don’t be ridiculous, and don’t be so naive.

Of course I never said or would even insinuate that everyone is miserable, or that there are no happy couples or any other nonsense you’re attempting to suggest. For example, as horrific as the divorce statistics are, at slightly over 60%, that obviously means that 40% are staying married, so that’s a lot of people. But does that then mean the 60% figure is then of no concern? Absurd. That figure is astronomically higher than it was just 3 decades ago, and contrary to this leftist Marxist ideology which is hostile to the nuclear family, those family roots have always been the foundation of our nation … the middle class, which is being murdered in broad daylight, and your solution is get an internet connection, engage in capitalism, and make that easy Million? Stop watching those absurd YouTube commercials that come on every 2 minutes now with guys who claim “I made 20 million dollars on line, and click to watch this free video that tells you how …. For 49.95”.

And divorce is just one data point, but indicative of a much larger problem. We have increasing suicide rates (and I’m not counting the increases due to Covid) increasing significantly over the past 20 years. We have massive numbers of people on antidepressant pharmaceuticals, and something like 25-30% of the people polled have at one time sought or received mental health counseling? And, maybe you just arrived from another planet recently, but the overall hostility among people polarized by politics and race and gender and sexual orientation is just out of control. Economy? THERE IS NO ECONOMY … you just haven’t received the memo yet, but it’s coming, and you remember that, if you remember nothing else.

Listen, my opinion is not a product of a fatalistic mindset, but simply the truth. And it’s based on being on this rock for quite a good while, and through personal experiences not just my own, but many others, friends, colleagues etc. And my knowledge of the past isn’t something I was taught about in some social science class, but was real life personal experience. I was there then, and I am here now, so I can authentically testify to the differences. Therefore I am not reliant upon leftwing propaganda and indoctrination claiming how horrible it used to be and how much better it is now, and how much progress has been made. It’s a freaking lie. It’s George Orwell’s 1984 on steroids. You don’t realize you are living in a gigantic insane asylum, because you’ve never known anything else. All you know is what you’ve been trained to believe. That’s all.

And many of us can see how effective the programming it has been, especially the effect it has had on a significant number of 20 and 30 something’s, who have a head filled with nonsense. They don’t know any better because they don’t know anything that’s real.

My words are a warning, not a complaint. Take it or leave it, as you choose.
 
Old 05-03-2022, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Southeast Arizona
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I sometimes think I am the only one on earth that sees WHY people are so disengaged.

When did school shootings start?
When did anxiety/depression among students start skyrocketing?

1998 was when Colombine happened.

In the last decade, the kids who grew up exclusively with something many of us never had growing up.

Social media? Nope.

THE INTERNET. I got my first laptop in 1997. I am assuming many people starting getting online around that same time. The cause of ALL of this crazy is the internet. It radicalizes people.
Yes and no, Columbine was planned by Harris and Klebold as early as August 1998, it was actually carried out in April 1999.

School shootings have always happened, but Columbine was different. Columbine was pre-planned, nihilistic violence for violence sake. Eric Harris, the mastermind who manipulated Klebold to go along with it, was a budding little psycho who felt he had nothing to look forward to, who, consequently was on all kinds of anti-depressants and psychotropics. Namely Luvox.

Having just turned 30, I grew up with the internet as well. But it can be broken down into particular eras, and ESPECIALLY if you lived in a rural area with limited access.

Eternal September happened in 1993-1994, because of my dad's job we had internet access in 1995, I didn't start regularly using the internet from a desktop until 1997. And if you lived in a rural area that was hours away from an urban area, it was practically unusable. Where I live, internet was basically Web 1.0 all the way until 2003 when broadband finally hit Eastern AZ.

Web 2.0 is basically 2003-2012 or so, rise of Facebook, rise of Youtube. I started trolling on gaming forums, and joined city-data during this time. Watching stuff like AVGN, and Youtube hosted user content that was free range, and even borderline criminal. What really changed the environment of all this, was the advent of the iPhone.

The iPhone, was basically Eternal September part 2. Because now EVERYBODY has access. Not just those with a niche for using laptops and desktops, now everybody is on the net.

Look at the rate of male virginity in American men. It SPIKED after 2008, and has only gotten worse. The iPhone and dating apps, I am convinced played a role in it.

Unfortunately, I still fall within that demographic. But I saw something shortly after I joined this site in 2009, on this very Relationships forum. Lots of angry young guys my age, lots of being chaffed by the recession at the time. Lots of red pill/blue pill talk. Much of the problem we are seeing now, were seeded back then. And I don't think it's ever going to be fixed.

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Well, someone recently shared his experience of going to a new church on Easter this year.

The Lord's Prayer was printed in the bulletin as "Our Mother/Father, who art in heaven..."
The Bibles in the pew racks were all gender neutral.
The Easter sermon compared Christ's resurrection to his/her/their own "transformation" of having "top surgery." Much of the sermon was about his/her/their que*rness and top surgery.

Sounds very woke to me.
Sounds Episcopalian or very Unitarian. Where I live, the Mormon, Catholic, Baptist and Evangelical churches would have raised all kinds of hell about that.
 
Old 05-03-2022, 10:42 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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Exactly. Woman are 100% in charge of "when" or "if" they will allow you to have sex with them.
Do you think women should NOT be 100% in charge of whether they'll allow you to have sex with them?
 
Old 05-03-2022, 11:02 PM
 
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I thought it was women who needed sex and men just complied. Now it seems it's really the men who want sex and are lonely without it.
 
Old 05-03-2022, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Once society realizes that BOTH men and women have their own crosses to bear when it comes to dating people will be better off.
I don’t have any crosses to bear. My dating life isn’t restricted to America or Americans. I don’t have to be a 6’2”, funny, charismatic, perfect fitness model to find dates or companions, I can just got to a location where local women don’t care about that.

Same goes for women, if they don’t like their odds in America, they can easily take some trips to Brazil or the Caribbeans to find their partner.

Just because someone doesn’t meet the western standards of attraction, doesn’t mean they can’t go find someone who doesn’t care about the western standards of attraction.
 
Old 05-03-2022, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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I thought it was women who needed sex and men just complied. Now it seems it's really the men who want sex and are lonely without it.


Hmmm....

How much money are men on a global scale paying to female prostitutes? And how much money are women on a global scale paying to male prostitutes? Which figure absolutely dwarfs the other?

Yes, both men and women desire sex, but male horniness is simply on another level. It is truly nigh insatiable.
 
Old 05-03-2022, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
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Hmmm....

How much money are men on a global scale paying to female prostitutes? And how much money are women on a global scale paying to male prostitutes? Which figure absolutely dwarfs the other?

Yes, both men and women desire sex, but male horniness is simply on another level. It is truly nigh insatiable.
This is absolutely true. It is not something a woman can possibly understand. It never ever EVER wanes. I kinda thought that might change with age. I'm pushing 60 and it's showing no sign whatsoever of abating.
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