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Old 05-05-2022, 12:45 PM
 
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Some of you guys obviously need to hire a hooker from time to time and stop whining.

I agree, except for the whining part. I think that’s an unfair and careless dismissal of a real problem.

Personally, I’m getting up there in age, so this is not so applicable for me anymore these days, but for the majority of my adult life I had no problems whatsoever in attracting very desirable women, and attaining sex and affection in healthy doses. I consider myself having been very blessed in that regard. But there are so many guys who were not and are not so fortunate. Most women have such an abundance of choices available to them … far more than the opportunities the average guy has, that inevitably leaves a lot of guys out in the cold, and that’s an unfortunate situation for them. The truth is, we are all human beings with similar feelings and needs, and that shouldn’t be dismissed so carelessly.

I cannot imagine being in my 20’s, 30’s and 40’s without frequent physical connection with a female, or feeling like I was undesirable as a man. It’s not just sex either … it’s essential to human health to have physical contact and intimacy with one another, and when someone finds this connection unavailable to them, the negative consequences to their physical and emotional well being are unavoidable. There is absolutely nothing in life that can substitute for the joy found in the intimacy between two partners. When that is missing, there is a huge void.

A prostitute can satisfy the physical, and do so quite well, but cannot provide the emotional element an authentic, intimate connection does. So it’s a partial solution, but not a cure all. I feel for these guys, because I can only imagine the feeling of not being viewed as attractive to the opposite sex, and the impact that has to have on their self esteem. While we are all different, there are certain things that are fairly universal … intimacy and close loving relationships are crucial to our sense of well being, and purpose. These relationships are important for everyone.

 
Old 05-05-2022, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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i agree, except for the whining part. I think that’s an unfair and careless dismissal of a real problem.

Personally, i’m getting up there in age, so this is not so applicable for me anymore these days, but for the majority of my adult life i had no problems whatsoever in attracting very desirable women, and attaining sex and affection in healthy doses. I consider myself having been very blessed in that regard. But there are so many guys who were not and are not so fortunate. Most women have such an abundance of choices available to them … far more than the opportunities the average guy has, that inevitably leaves a lot of guys out in the cold, and that’s an unfortunate situation for them. The truth is, we are all human beings with similar feelings and needs, and that shouldn’t be dismissed so carelessly.

I cannot imagine being in my 20’s, 30’s and 40’s without frequent physical connection with a female, or feeling like i was undesirable as a man. It’s not just sex either … it’s essential to human health to have physical contact and intimacy with one another, and when someone finds this connection unavailable to them, the negative consequences to their physical and emotional well being are unavoidable. There is absolutely nothing in life that can substitute for the joy found in the intimacy between two partners. When that is missing, there is a huge void.

A prostitute can satisfy the physical, and do so quite well, but cannot provide the emotional element an authentic, intimate connection does. So it’s a partial solution, but not a cure all. I feel for these guys, because i can only imagine the feeling of not being viewed as attractive to the opposite sex, and the impact that has to have on their self esteem. While we are all different, there are certain things that are fairly universal … intimacy and close loving relationships are crucial to our sense of well being, and purpose. These relationships are important for everyone.
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Old 05-05-2022, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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I agree, except for the whining part. I think that’s an unfair and careless dismissal of a real problem.

Personally, I’m getting up there in age, so this is not so applicable for me anymore these days, but for the majority of my adult life I had no problems whatsoever in attracting very desirable women, and attaining sex and affection in healthy doses. I consider myself having been very blessed in that regard. But there are so many guys who were not and are not so fortunate. Most women have such an abundance of choices available to them … far more than the opportunities the average guy has, that inevitably leaves a lot of guys out in the cold, and that’s an unfortunate situation for them. The truth is, we are all human beings with similar feelings and needs, and that shouldn’t be dismissed so carelessly.

I cannot imagine being in my 20’s, 30’s and 40’s without frequent physical connection with a female, or feeling like I was undesirable as a man. It’s not just sex either … it’s essential to human health to have physical contact and intimacy with one another, and when someone finds this connection unavailable to them, the negative consequences to their physical and emotional well being are unavoidable. There is absolutely nothing in life that can substitute for the joy found in the intimacy between two partners. When that is missing, there is a huge void.

A prostitute can satisfy the physical, and do so quite well, but cannot provide the emotional element an authentic, intimate connection does. So it’s a partial solution, but not a cure all. I feel for these guys, because I can only imagine the feeling of not being viewed as attractive to the opposite sex, and the impact that has to have on their self esteem. While we are all different, there are certain things that are fairly universal … intimacy and close loving relationships are crucial to our sense of well being, and purpose. These relationships are important for everyone.
I'm there. I am 52, divorced and disabled. I miss companionship and intimacy. Intimacy like a touch on the shoulder or holding hands or lying in bed talking to my SO. I know it is not happening again for me and I am mostly OK with that. I do not blame women or society for the things I find lacking in myself. I think that is where I am different from these younger dudes complaining abut the lack of a sex partner.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:09 PM
 
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As the poster said 100% certain I'm not sure how your judgement matters.
How do you know those prostitutes have not had several abortions?
I’m sure that is probably the case, from time to time, but I doubt it’s as prevalent as you may be suggesting. Abortion causes a little more trauma to the body than having your nails done! So, I doubt prostitutes are using abortion as a form of birth control like the general masses are apparently doing. First thing is, it would take them out of commission for a while, and given the fact they are having sex with 100 or more clients every 30 days, they would be constantly getting pregnant and constantly having abortions. How many abortions do you think the female body can endure? Do you think Henrietta Hooker is a member of an abortion club, where every 5th one is 50% off, annually?

Be real. There are two main priorities for prostitutes … avoiding disease and pregnancy, because both takes them off the playing field, and represents tens of thousands of dollars in lost earnings. That may be less applicable to the crack addict street hooker, but for the high dollar escorts and premium class call girls, you can bet your last dollar, these women are not getting knocked up on the regular. They adhere to consistent measures to ensure that doesn’t happen.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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No way. Prostitution in the US is sketchy, risky, expensive, shady, illegal, inaccessible, and poor quality.

Most prostitutes in America are mentally ill and/or addicted to drugs. The few that aren't charge a small fortune for their 'services.'
Our prostitutes are awesome in Nevada!
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Old 05-05-2022, 01:44 PM
 
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I think you're asking for the impossible. The cheap hookers you find on the street are likely not going to be attractive...They're probably also going to be mentally ill and addicted to drugs. How else do you expect them to live a life like that?

The very attractive high-end escorts are of course going to charge at least hundreds for their services. Why would they offer their services for cheap?
Exactly!
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:48 PM
 
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Dating is a game it always has been, there are no rules set in stone. What men need to do is find a very good Attractive female friend and learn from that woman as a friend and a friend only what women are expecting and looking for in a male mate. You will find there are very few men that can live up to a women's standards and expectations but you can work on yourself and learn from this friend, she will eventually try to find you a match.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:55 PM
 
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I’m sure that is probably the case, from time to time, but I doubt it’s as prevalent as you may be suggesting. Abortion causes a little more trauma to the body than having your nails done! So, I doubt prostitutes are using abortion as a form of birth control like the general masses are apparently doing. First thing is, it would take them out of commission for a while, and given the fact they are having sex with 100 or more clients every 30 days, they would be constantly getting pregnant and constantly having abortions. How many abortions do you think the female body can endure? Do you think Henrietta Hooker is a member of an abortion club, where every 5th one is 50% off, annually?

Be real. There are two main priorities for prostitutes … avoiding disease and pregnancy, because both takes them off the playing field, and represents tens of thousands of dollars in lost earnings. That may be less applicable to the crack addict street hooker, but for the high dollar escorts and premium class call girls, you can bet your last dollar, these women are not getting knocked up on the regular. They adhere to consistent measures to ensure that doesn’t happen.
Well do a little google search on pregnancy and prostitution. It is quite common. But I never said prostitutes were using abortion as a form a birth control. Im saying prostitutes are no better at preventing unwanted pregnancy than the average woman.

And wow. Comparing an abortion to going to the nail salon, nice.

Do some reading instead of making thins up in your head.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=prosti...5013ad84948d7b
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2801656/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/320375...t-after-prize/
 
Old 05-05-2022, 01:58 PM
 
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If we had an open, free, and completely legal market in prostitution, the prices would be a lot more reasonable.

Compare the US and Germany- both fully developed nations with a similar overall COL. A prostitute in the US charges at least twice what an equivalent prostitute in Germany charges, if not triple or quadruple.
So what is the price in US compared to Germany?
What do you consider a reasonable price for sex.
What would you charge?
 
Old 05-05-2022, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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I agree, except for the whining part. I think that’s an unfair and careless dismissal of a real problem.

Personally, I’m getting up there in age, so this is not so applicable for me anymore these days, but for the majority of my adult life I had no problems whatsoever in attracting very desirable women, and attaining sex and affection in healthy doses. I consider myself having been very blessed in that regard. But there are so many guys who were not and are not so fortunate. Most women have such an abundance of choices available to them … far more than the opportunities the average guy has, that inevitably leaves a lot of guys out in the cold, and that’s an unfortunate situation for them. The truth is, we are all human beings with similar feelings and needs, and that shouldn’t be dismissed so carelessly.

I cannot imagine being in my 20’s, 30’s and 40’s without frequent physical connection with a female, or feeling like I was undesirable as a man. It’s not just sex either … it’s essential to human health to have physical contact and intimacy with one another, and when someone finds this connection unavailable to them, the negative consequences to their physical and emotional well being are unavoidable. There is absolutely nothing in life that can substitute for the joy found in the intimacy between two partners. When that is missing, there is a huge void.

A prostitute can satisfy the physical, and do so quite well, but cannot provide the emotional element an authentic, intimate connection does. So it’s a partial solution, but not a cure all. I feel for these guys, because I can only imagine the feeling of not being viewed as attractive to the opposite sex, and the impact that has to have on their self esteem. While we are all different, there are certain things that are fairly universal … intimacy and close loving relationships are crucial to our sense of well being, and purpose. These relationships are important for everyone.
Sympathy definitely helps these men more than ridicule. Good post. Though I am no longer "that man" I know what they go through, and battling those demons has left me with a greater understanding of human psychology and our nature as well, which is why I tend to bring it up a lot here, things like rewarding bad behavior, pavlonian conditioning, and the like.

For me as an introvert relationships are a double edged sword. I enjoy companionship but at this point I'm so wired to enjoy my independence that having to keep in touch with someone every couple hours and check in on them... I find myself wanting no contact with anyone and no responsibility towards anyone but myself, to keep working on what I'm working on. Definitely give and take. Chuckle.

As for the above question, I'd say $150-250/hour is a reasonable rate for a prostitute... I've never used one but I've heard it's far more expensive then that, which rules out a cheapskate like me from partaking. I've also never been to nor ever plan to go to a strip club.
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