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Old 05-05-2022, 08:41 PM
 
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No. A 120lb woman can take out a rhinoceros with the mere twitch of a finger.
Unless she has a revolver. I can't outrun or punch a bullet.

You don't really have a point

This is just an excuse for prejudice against men. This isn't an accusation I was guilty of it too. It's something we are conditioned to accept as little boys

Ok you are being silly.

 
Old 05-05-2022, 09:31 PM
 
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Our prostitutes are awesome in Nevada!
Any recommendations... asking for a friend.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 09:50 PM
 
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The bold seems to be something women have difficulty with.

I've heard far more women saying "there is nothing wrong with me" or " I deserve something from people" or "Why do I have to change. I've even come across harpies screeching about the fact that men find something about them unattractive I or unappealing.

It was women trying to ban the word bossy. Inserted of working on themselves if they hear that as a reason for a breakup.
You JUST proved my whole point.
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Old 05-05-2022, 10:08 PM
 
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Ok you are being silly.
No I'm actually not. When I no longer cared about being appealing to women all of my priorities changed.
 
Old 05-05-2022, 10:09 PM
 
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You JUST proved my whole point.
Explain please?
 
Old 05-05-2022, 11:53 PM
 
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Well, let's look at the complaint, because there are multiple ways to complain about the same thing, to paraphrase:

"Women and this whole women's lib thing has made them impossible to have a relationship with, they expect too much, and offer nothing."

Or

"I have trouble attracting a partner, and this bothers me. I don't seem to be able to offer the women whom
I want, what they want."

I think the difference is obvious. And yes, I could go back and clip many statements like what I paraphrased, I'm just not going to take the time.
I think these guys have valid complaints, as I’ve previously mentioned, and there has been a significant amount of research on this … the advent of on-line dating has made traditional meet and greet obsolete. Now, there is this huge pool of tens of thousands of men and women which could be likened to a form of soft-core-dating-porn, resulting in an endless smorgasbord of pure dating fantasy. And we all know how women love to fantasize about Mr. Perfect, don’t we?

Couple that with all of the other extraneous influences that have created unrealistic expectations on both sides, and we find confusion between reality and fantasy. And while it used to be mostly men who were woefully out of touch with reality insofar as the woman they truly qualified for, and constantly reaching for women totally out of their league, we now have the women doing the exact same thing. The difference is, the men didn’t reject all other women not meeting their ideal fantasy girl image, but dated and mated with the women responsive to them, which ultimately reflected their true qualifications.

Many of the women today aren’t willing to do that. And I’ve heard this expressed very clearly when women say that after 15 years of marriage and three kids, they are not going to settle for anything less than their perfect match, which always means perfect “other person”. And you can read their profiles and what they are seeking in there next partner, and it’s a total joke. These women are delusional with regard to what they are looking for, as well as what they themselves qualify for. The men these women describe as their ideal partner either don’t exist, or they wouldn’t be on that dating site, and they sure wouldn’t be looking to date a late 40’s divorcée with a few extra pounds and with three kids still living at home. I can also just about guarantee that there are countless good men out there that would love that woman and her kids, and she would love him too, but for the fact that they will never know, because he can’t get past their fantasy filters. And I have a theory …..

Prior to the internet, people went out to meet new people in person, at various places, from grocery stores to clubs and bars, events, fairs, sporting events, church, etc. And that mysterious thing we call “chemistry” is real, and it used to be the primary signal to one another to stop and take a closer look. This chemistry thing can only be smelt or felt in the presence of the other person, and cannot be found in pictures and text. This gives both people that instant there/not there signal to stick around and look closer, or move along. And on the list of priorities, at least initially, chemistry is always cited as numero uno with regard to the desire to date someone, and it really doesn’t matter if you like same things, or vacationed at the same places, or went to school in the same town, or like the same food … or enjoy hiking, biking and whatever other BS makes the long list … all of those qualifiers and commonalities mean absolutely nothing if that spark isn’t there. But what we do now, is backasswards. We spend all of this time weeding through hundreds of profiles, and narrowing down to a few possibilities, then we start sorting through all of those and analyzing “details” first, then we start sending emails and messages back and forth, then we meet up for coffee, or a drink only to discover that this mysterious chemistry is nowhere to be found, and the entire exercise was a complete waist of time, which happens most of the time.

Now, I don’t mean to be mean, and I’m not saying I’m all that and a bag of chips, but my history speaks for itself, and among the men in my age group, I’m solidly in the top tier, yet I get messaged all the time by women that aren’t even close to the top 50% … it’s astounding the number of grossly obese, unattractive females which in many cases look more like Don King having a bad hair day than someone I would ever date, and that ought to be just as evident to them too. It’s the same idea as that grossly obese ginger dude, that’s 35 and balding, who couldn’t get laid at the Bunny Ranch with a fist full of $50’s sending messages to the instagram models and expecting replies. This is the delusion for which I am speaking of.

And it’s real simple actually, and it’s pure math with a dose of common sense. For whatever reason, a large percentage of single women are set on competing for, and believe they qualify for those top tier males, even though most of them simply don’t come close to meeting the standards of those men. If you have 50% or more of single women chasing the top 5% males, with the attitude of California or bust, they are ignoring the reality that those top tier males are pairing up with the top tier women, which eliminates 45% of those women out of the running. And it’s their decision for sure, just as it is everyone’s decision to choose who they want to partner with. Frankly, I wouldn’t want to live in a world where that wasn’t the case.

Now, you can disagree all you like, but there has been a significant and unflattering shift in the attitudes and actions of females today, and particularly in the younger age group of the 20-30’s. There are multiple social media channels, interviewing the crowds at the downtown clubs … and these young women in substantial majority are an embarrassment. They dress like street hookers, and behave even worse. This one interviewer asked the women if they paid for their own drinks at the club. The dominant response was uncontrollable laughter. They looked at the interviewer with incredulity, as if the guy had lost his mind. Hell no we don’t buy our own drinks, are you serious? They went on and on, and when asked if they only accepted drinks from guys they were interested in dating the answer was again, a resounding no??? I might stay and talk for 5 minutes, but I’m not a prostitute, one insisted. No, darlin’ you are not a prostitute, as prostitutes exhibit greater integrity. You are just little con artists, swindling guys out of free drinks, who fall for the illusion that they might have a chance to talk to the princess, when he has no chance at anything other that having his pocket picked.

That being said, there are a lot of people out there that could be much happier and far less lonely, were it not for unrealistic expectations, and the total absence of integrity, compassion and empathy, while believing it’s possible to order up a perfect mate, with the toppings of your choosing like ordering a pizza.

I don’t know that there are any real solutions to this, but that doesn’t negate the legitimacy of the complaints, nor does it bode well for our collective futures, which looks worse every day.
 
Old 05-06-2022, 02:47 AM
 
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One of the best posts in the thread is the post just above mine and I couldn't rep you again. I think a lot of the men here must be older nearing retirement to post a lot of the stuff they do because dating has changed a lot. There's a lot of unrealistic expectations these days because women can go on social media and get sex from high-tier men but then they think they can lock these high tier men down when they can't because these men have so many options. Women also want to spend a lot of their twenties partying and being more promiscuous and finally settling down when they hit 30 and some men do resent that especially if these women have kids out of wedlock.

A lot of men will have sex with you that doesn't mean they're going to marry you especially if you don't cook or clean or contribute anyway the way a traditional housewife would. That said a lot of normal men are still in relationships you just have to work on your personality and I've already mentioned before and earlier replies in this thread that is men's weak point these days. They weren't well socialized his kids and didn't have good father figures to help out either. They don't have the ability to build sexual tension and are lacking confidence. Dating is like a capitalistic free market where you're thrown to the wolves and you sink or swim kind of like the real estate market.
 
Old 05-06-2022, 05:51 AM
 
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Prior to the internet, people went out to meet new people in person, at various places, from grocery stores to clubs and bars, events, fairs, sporting events, church, etc. And that mysterious thing we call “chemistry” is real, and it used to be the primary signal to one another to stop and take a closer look. This chemistry thing can only be smelt or felt in the presence of the other person, and cannot be found in pictures and text. This gives both people that instant there/not there signal to stick around and look closer, or move along. And on the list of priorities, at least initially, chemistry is always cited as numero uno with regard to the desire to date someone, and it really doesn’t matter if you like same things, or vacationed at the same places, or went to school in the same town, or like the same food … or enjoy hiking, biking and whatever other BS makes the long list … all of those qualifiers and commonalities mean absolutely nothing if that spark isn’t there. But what we do now, is backasswards. We spend all of this time weeding through hundreds of profiles, and narrowing down to a few possibilities, then we start sorting through all of those and analyzing “details” first, then we start sending emails and messages back and forth, then we meet up for coffee, or a drink only to discover that this mysterious chemistry is nowhere to be found, and the entire exercise was a complete waist of time, which happens most of the time.
You bring up some good points, having grown up pre-internet, myself, I look at online dating as a double-edged sword.

On one hand, depending on where you live, with online dating you can meet a tremendous amount of people in a relatively short amount of time, as compared to the pre-internet days, where it actually took some "work" back in the day to get out there and meet people.

On the other hand, on line dating can cause people to wander even easier/quicker than the pre-internet days. Meaning if you find someone awesome and amazing online, in the back of your head you might constantly be wondering, what if there's someone out there that's even more awesome and amazing and they are just a click away, then you become that serial dater, constantly trying to find that "next best thing" with the ease of the internet!
 
Old 05-06-2022, 06:05 AM
 
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You bring up some good points, having grown up pre-internet, myself, I look at online dating as a double-edged sword.
IMHO it isn't that people are turning to the internet for ease.

It is that people, actual people, have lost their manners. The internet provides away to avoid being insulted hurt and dealing with crazy people. I hear people talk about how people have their heads stuck in their phones all the time. IMHO that is so the crazy people without manners will leave them alone.

Not that whatever is going on with Twitter is so interesting.

Society needs to figure out that being rude and spewing whatever you want, whenever you want, just leads to everyone being miserable. We need to go back to a civil society with gentlemen and ladies. People don't want to approach others in the real world because they don't know what they are going to get.

With regard to women, and guys just can't understand this, women are in danger of meeting the wrong man and cannot afford to take chances. Guys are always like, but I wouldn't hurt them, but women don't know that. In olden society women met men in places that were absolutely safe and there was NO expectation they would come back into their homes -- which is a chance. Now if a woman says, no sex on the first date, the guy drops her like a hot potato as being stuck up. It has gone too far.

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And I’ve heard this expressed very clearly when women say that after 15 years of marriage and three kids, they are not going to settle for anything less than their perfect match, which always means perfect “other person”.
I think guys need to learn to understand this as they clearly don't, why should she settle for anything less? If you had kids, if you are relatively well off, what do you need a man for? Sex? Honestly no matter what they tell you women's sex drive gets low after a certain age. i am being blunt here.... women don't really need men. The man has to make her life better or what is the point?
 
Old 05-06-2022, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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. Dating is like a capitalistic free market where you're thrown to the wolves and you sink or swim kind of like the real estate market.
It's not a 'free market.' More like a rigged and manipulated market.
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