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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 190 39.34%
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Old 11-05-2022, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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'Reporting from Ukraine' daily update...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94aTQkES2e0
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Old 11-05-2022, 05:27 PM
 
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Deny's update today 11/05...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJP6o7zoeys
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Old 11-05-2022, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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here is an interesting 10 minute video about NASAMS use in Ukraine...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzkDd3Okc8s
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Old 11-05-2022, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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ISW update 11/5

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ent-november-5

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Nov 5, 2022 - Press ISW
Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin seeks to obfuscate his efforts to strengthen his independent power base with an appeal to the concept of Russia’s historic unity. Prigozhin provided a vague response to a media inquiry regarding his recent visit to Kursk Oblast on Russia’s Unity Day (November 4), during which he had indirectly implied that Wagner forces are involved in upholding Russia’s unity. Prigozhin stated that Russian people, businesses, government, and army need to come together to fight for Russia’s sovereignty and its great future while deflecting from the journalist’s question regarding Prigozhin’s reported meeting with Kursk businessmen about the organization of an unspecified people’s militia – outside of formal Russian military command structures. Prigozhin also noted that Russia has all the ingredients to achieve its goals including a strong president, cohesive army, and great nationhood, which he concluded with an out-of-place greeting from Wagner fighters. Prigozhin later claimed in a follow up media response that his “independence†does not contradict Russian President Vladimir Putin’s politics as some audiences have interpreted.
Barbarians at Putin's gate??
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Old 11-05-2022, 08:43 PM
 
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here is an interesting 10 minute video about NASAMS use in Ukraine...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzkDd3Okc8s
C-RAM, in addition to the NASAMS, would provide even more protection. C-RAM would be less expensive to use and more effective against drones. They were used to protect American Embassies and military facilities in Iraq and Afghanistan, very effectively. They shot down rockets launched at Kabul airport during the US withdrawal.
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Old 11-06-2022, 07:07 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I don't see a time in the future when Ukraine will not have effective, plentiful air defenses in place. Russia tried to create some space between themselves and their perceived threat. Everyone thought they would succeed. In this case, "everyone" means goepoliticists like Peter Zeihan and George Friedman. Both those authors missed in their books printed 10 and 12 years ago.

So Ukraine, it appears, will alter the expected course of history. Friedman now believes the area of Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria will go on to become major players in world history of the next 75-100 years. Russia will always have natural resources, but few willing customers.
Interesting stuff.
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Old 11-06-2022, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Austin
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How about at least posting something published since the war started.

The only ones that could possibly know what is being shipped from China to Russia, is China and Russia.

Here is how Russia will get the chips they need.

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"Once chips have left the factory it's very hard to know for sure where they end up," said Diederik Cops, a senior researcher in arms exports and trade at the Flemish Peace Institute, a research organization linked to the Flemish parliament.
Oh for heaven's sake, Politico. The Flemish Peace Institute? Seriously? The Flemish are a tiny ethnic sub-group in Northern Belgium known for their draft horses and magnificent sugar beet farms. Think Amish with big diesel tractors. They should stick to forecasting produce consumption of Western Europe and leave silicon chips to ... uhhh, anyone else.
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Old 11-06-2022, 08:35 AM
 
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I don't see a time in the future when Ukraine will not have effective, plentiful air defenses in place. Russia tried to create some space between themselves and their perceived threat. Everyone thought they would succeed. In this case, "everyone" means goepoliticists like Peter Zeihan and George Friedman. Both those authors missed in their books printed 10 and 12 years ago.

So Ukraine, it appears, will alter the expected course of history. Friedman now believes the area of Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria will go on to become major players in world history of the next 75-100 years. Russia will always have natural resources, but few willing customers.
Interesting stuff.
It sure looks like Putin's invasion of Ukraine will alter the expected course of history.

Russia is unlikely to ever be the big dog on the block again.

Between the destruction of their military machine, the impact of sanctions on their economy, the isolation from most of the rest of the world, ... the future does not look good.

I watched a video clip of a Russian soldier claiming that indoor plumbing was no big deal. Hard to believe that in this day and age, a nation could be a first world power when some of its citizens don't have indoor plumbing, when stealing washing machines to cart home is a thing. I realize that lack of indoor plumbing is the case in some areas of the U.S., Alaskan villages, for example. But still.

There is a lot of commotion going on as we transition to the Age of Information, a lot of people will be left behind. It looks like Russians will be some of those left behind.
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Old 11-06-2022, 10:54 AM
 
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I don't see a time in the future when Ukraine will not have effective, plentiful air defenses in place. ...
If Ukraine can develop an "Iron Dome" type of defensive system, it will be more practical and cost effective than a new fleet of supersonic jet fighters.

It appears to be the only way for the Ukrainians to have a no fly zone ... they will have to do it in just this way, under their own control.
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Old 11-06-2022, 11:10 AM
 
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Default Russia's Ghost Army in Ukraine

Russia's Ghost Army in Ukraine

This is an aging report but very relevant to our discussions here. I feel it is important to look back at the origins of this conflict in 2014, and how (even at that time) it was well known and widely reported that Russian servicemen were being sent into Ukraine clandestinely, to undermine Ukrainian authority along the eastern border region. Many came back in body bags and zinc coffins.

Slowly, Russian families were learning about it, despite the official propaganda to the contrary, one son at a time.

From the very beginning the 'insurrection' in the Donbas was inspired, led and driven on by agents of the Kremlin. The main fighting ability of the so-called Donbas 'republics' was entirely through the efforts of Russian servicemen using Russian equipment. Once they were able to secure a foothold, they started conscripting locals, often against their will.

This video focuses upon the tragic human cost of the war on ordinary Russian people, even as Putin's government lied to them.


The Kremlin's Secret War: Russia's Ghost Army in Ukraine (Full Length)

Very interesting stuff here, a report produced by native Russians in Russia the year after the secret war started.
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