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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 192 39.26%
No 250 51.12%
Unsure 47 9.61%
Voters: 489. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-18-2024, 07:39 AM
 
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With a bit of internet search, one may easily find that Ukraine for years was hub for trading children and organs. It's just that those "news" show up and are buried and, as usual, in 2 weeks crowd does not remember as some celebrity crashed in helicopter or or something else "broke news" somewhere else. Then, those children become revelation, after a year spent on false accusations etc.
But this will be forgotten as well, while accusations will stay.
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Old 04-18-2024, 08:10 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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With a bit of internet search, one may easily find that Ukraine for years was hub for trading children and organs. It's just that those "news" show up and are buried and, as usual, in 2 weeks crowd does not remember as some celebrity crashed in helicopter or or something else "broke news" somewhere else. Then, those children become revelation, after a year spent on false accusations etc.
But this will be forgotten as well, while accusations will stay.
This changes everything.
Go, Russia! Leave your borders and bomb them all - hospitals, power plants, everything! Leave nothing standing!
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Old 04-18-2024, 05:21 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Most countries expand their economy while at war. Germany included. Look it up; pick your own country and your own war..
That's because war expends the countries financial reserves and turns it into GDP.
Only at the end does the GDP suddenly reverse as the country runs out of funds.


Russia is dying.
Ukraine is not spending their own money. They never had much, anyway.
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Old 04-19-2024, 08:27 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Ukrainians have evidently shot down a SU-22 supersonic fighter-bomber. I say "evidently" because while there is no doubt it plunged from the sky, such events are sometimes the result of careless smoking by the crew.
During the same operation, an SU-22 that was following the subject bomber turned around and headed home, taking its missiles with it.


The Su-22 design is 30 years old and was being used by Russia to launch missiles while still safe over Russian territory. The particular plane shot down was about 400km from Ukraine.
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Old 04-19-2024, 09:11 AM
 
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Kharkiv, Ukraine's second most important city is on the verge of collapse due to increasingly destroyed power systems by Russian missiles and drones. May become a ghost town as people flee. Have to send more money to Ukraine to prevent Kharkiv's fall and to kick the Russians out of Ukraine. Send Zelensky everything you've got.

https://essanews.com/kharkivs-dire-b...7822701016705a
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Old 04-19-2024, 10:05 AM
 
Location: NYC
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How many people are naive enough to believe if Ukraine loses, NATO and Russia will just magically make up? It will become a new Cold War and end up in a hot war. So Russians are really confident in winning a direct war against NATO?
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Old 04-19-2024, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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so at this point is it safe to say that the Ukraine aid package is as good as done?...with the voting tomorrow just a formality?..let's hope so..and even if it is so, how long will it take to get weapons to the front?...

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On Friday morning, a similar coalition of Democrats and pro-aid Republicans in the full House voted 316-94 to set up debate and final votes on the legislation on Saturday afternoon. This comfortable margin is a strong indication that a large bipartisan majority in the chamber is on course to approve the package.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-ca..._medium=social
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Old 04-19-2024, 06:02 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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How many people are naive enough to believe if Ukraine loses, NATO and Russia will just magically make up? It will become a new Cold War and end up in a hot war. So Russians are really confident in winning a direct war against NATO?
Russia is in a heck of a spot. If they pull out of Ukraine now, they would almost certainly lose Crimea. That would be a disaster, as seen by Russia.
So they have started a war which is devouring them economically. They couldn't possibly fight a determined NATO, so they are hoping to grind down Ukraine until Trump takes office and "orders" Ukraine to stop resisting. I don't think there is much hope for that, though, so however it turns out it will not be pretty for Russia.


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You know nuclear war is a choice? Putin declared a bunch of red lines that NATO can't cross or else he will go nuclear and they were crossed and we are still having a conventional war.

Only simple minded people believe Putin's nuclear threats at this point.
Yeah. As General Ben Hodges pointed out, it would not even be necessary to use nuclear weapons against Russia. We have all seen that Russian air defenses are not up to par; stealth aircraft could just power in, do what they need to do, and power out.
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Old 04-20-2024, 06:05 AM
 
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First time a long range Russian strategic bomber went down in the war. Ukraine says they shot it down, Russia said there was a malfunction. Euro News says they can't confirm how it went down, just that it went down.

There was no ammunition left on board per Russia.

Russia has evacuated 3 of the 4 downed crew from behind Ukrainian lines.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...-moscow-denies
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Old 04-20-2024, 07:27 AM
 
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First time a long range Russian strategic bomber went down in the war. Ukraine says they shot it down, Russia said there was a malfunction. Euro News says they can't confirm how it went down, just that it went down.

There was no ammunition left on board per Russia.

Russia has evacuated 3 of the 4 downed crew from behind Ukrainian lines.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...-moscow-denies
Actually, 400 km from the front line. Now, needs to be checked if Ukraine even has ground to air missiles capable of such distance and precision. As they sure do not have jet capable of this.
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