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Old 07-13-2022, 06:47 AM
 
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Proportionality is facet of the use of deadly force in self-defense.
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There is no way you could lecture about self defense.
sure he could - if he felt like pursuing a career in comedy.
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:43 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Proportionality is facet of the use of deadly force in self-defense.

When it comes to self defense the only thing I'm using a faucet for is a weapon.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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ASSAULT - In criminal and tort law, an act, usually consisting of a threat or attempt to inflict bodily injury upon another person, coupled with the apparent present ability to succeed in carrying out the threat or the attempt if not prevented, that causes the person to have a reasonable fear or apprehension of immediate harmful or offensive contact. No intent to cause battery or the fear or apprehension is required so long as the victim is placed in reasonable apprehension or fear. No actual physical injury is needed to establish an assault, but if there is any physical contact, the act constitutes both an assault and a battery.
- In criminal law, in some states, the term includes battery and attempted battery.
- Any attack .
- The act of inflicting bodily injury upon another.

MAYHEM - Injury inflicted on another so as to cause loss of a bodily part or function necessary for self-defense. Rendering victim helpless.

SELF DEFENSE : (Law) The right to protect oneself against violence or threatened violence with whatever force or means are reasonably necessary.

AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE : An affirmative defense to a civil lawsuit or criminal charge is a fact or set of facts other than those alleged by the plaintiff or prosecutor which, if proven by the defendant, defeats or mitigates the legal consequences of the defendant's otherwise unlawful conduct. In criminal prosecutions, examples of affirmative defenses are self defense, insanity, and the statute of limitations.

SELF DEFENSE - The protection of one's person or property against some injury attempted by another. The RIGHT of such protection. An excuse for the use of force in resisting an attack on the person.
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1359

Any D.A. who prosecutes one who was defending person or property is either ignorant of law (a valid possibility today) or is an accomplice after the fact with the injured perpetrator(s).
He is certainly not "securing rights" for there is no right to threaten, assault or injure the person of another.
Oh, right, since 1933, no one has rights anymore - we're all happy serfs in the glorious collective.
We LUV YA, Big Brother.
s. Winston Smith.
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Old 07-13-2022, 09:44 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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sure he could - if he felt like pursuing a career in comedy.
"Must spread rep". Ummm...yeah. The things being put out in the posts by this guy are just...well...a little wakaloon. Self defense is a privilege? "Proportionality? Plus the whole video is not being taken into account in the lunatic raving ideas being posted. Alvin? Is that you? I dunno maybe this guy is running for DA in some East coast urban quagmire. Has the right thought process for some far left wokey tokey metropolis.

After seeing the whole video (with audio please) a rational person cannot lay any fault on Alba. No way. Plus I highly doubt without cherry picking things to death a jury can be found who would convict Alba of anything. Let alone murder. I've run up against snot nosed DA sand ADAs out to prove a point and make a name for themselves and was lucky to witness the harsh rebuke handed them by a good judge.

But an NYC judge already backed the DAQ with the initial bail amount at 500,000. Then that was dropped to 200,000 then finally to 50.000. If anyone should have been ORd it's Alba. But noooo. They'll release violent druggie repeat career criminals but try to throw the book (and the table it's sitting on) at a guy like Alba. It's infuriating and it's good to see the regular citizens of NYC furious at this. That's change in the making.

I had always thought there was no hope for NYC. Along with LA San Fran Fresno and a host of others. But maybe just maybe if the citizens of NYC get mad enough (this could do it) that binjo ditch of a city can get cleaned up.

Meanwhile our resident "self defense expert" (who is probably just trolling) is indeed good comic relief.
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:32 AM
 
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The D.A. will probably try to bully Alba to take a plea deal, to save face.
On the other hand, predators in government will defend other predators and prosecute any prey that dare to fight back.
I hope that he doesn't take any plea deals and fights it.
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:33 AM
 
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Jose Alba and Bernard Goetz - American heroes!
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:36 AM
 
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sure he could - if he felt like pursuing a career in comedy.
Dark comedy
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:39 AM
 
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George Soros always financially backs piles of feces.
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:39 AM
 
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The DA and judge should have their law license revoked and they should both be removed from their position. Both should be required to put in community service hours in a bodega in the worst criminal neighborhood for no less than 4 hours a day from 8pm to midnight every Friday and Saturday until they’ve put in no less than 40 hours.
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Old 07-13-2022, 02:42 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I hope that he doesn't take any plea deals and fights it.
He certainly should. Nothing less than total exoneration will do thank you. Alba needs to rub Bragg's nose in it but good. Baaaad dog! No cookie! The DAs office will play hell finding a jury in NYC that will convict. The circumstances here are even more plain than in the Rittenhouse case. And the NYC DAs office will look more foolish than Kenosha's did. Which is pretty bad. :dubious
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