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Old 07-11-2022, 05:17 PM
 
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Even Bragg could smell the coffee on that one and knew that any attempt to indict Trump would get laughed out of court.
Didn't another judge rule that Trump had probably committed criminal offenses?
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:19 PM
 
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What the heck does killing someone who yells at you have to do with this case ?
The bodega owner was approached by a man yelling at him. We know that later he stabbed the man to death.

Unless there is more involved, you don't get to stab someone yelling at you. Its not self-defense, which involves proportionality.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:20 PM
 
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I think we found the problem; self defense isnt a privilege, its a right
And the biggest aspect of self-defense is running away; NOT using deadly force. In the face of deadly force a person is privileged to use deadly force to defend him or herself. That's where the privilege comes in.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:23 PM
 
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The bodega owner was approached by a man yelling at him. We know that later he stabbed the man to death.

Unless there is more involved, you don't get to stab someone yelling at you. Its not self-defense, which involves proportionality.
The bodega owner was stabbed. Was he just supposed to run away and get stabbed in the back?
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:25 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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No good deed goes unpunished in our nayshun.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:25 PM
 
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The bodega owner was stabbed. Was he just supposed to run away and get stabbed in the back?
I don't know if that happened at all. The news reports did not state that. The owner was shown walking pretty good.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:29 PM
 
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I don't know if that happened at all. The news reports did not state that. The owner was shown walking pretty good.
Well he was stabbed in the arm not the leg....

You do seem to know it wasn't self defense somehow.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Gainesville, FL; formerly Weston, FL
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And the biggest aspect of self-defense is running away; NOT using deadly force. In the face of deadly force a person is privileged to use deadly force to defend him or herself. That's where the privilege comes in.
How could he run away? The video that I saw was that he was sitting in his chair, behind the counter, and was backed into a corner by the guy he killed.

And oh, by the way, the guy that was killed came around the counter and confronted the bodega worker. He was clearly the aggressor, and if he wanted to settle the matter peacefully would have stayed behind the counter where customers stand, and not clearly threaten the old man.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:29 PM
 
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Well he was stabbed in the arm not the leg....
and not by the victim.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:30 PM
 
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How could he run away? The video that I saw was that he was sitting in his chair, behind the counter, and was backed into a corner by the guy he killed.
Who raised the tempo to a life or death struggle?
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