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Originally Posted by greywar
Again, you havent seen these people in person have you? But even if we limit it to blm really.....sooo you are all in for a group that only assaults people who protest that they shouldnt be shot so much by cops? I mean....Really?
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And again conservatives here cant discuss a topic without making it about me.
You mean, like you often do?
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I swear you guys are fixated. Show me my posts where I have lauded BLM violence. I can show you post after post of me saying anyone commiting a crime should do time.
I wish you could make a argument here that wasnt about me, Id probably enjoy that. but, you take what you get.
You excuse their violence and make wild claims saying it's not them, or other such nonsense.
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And you are 100% wrong. Proud boys show up in search of violence. Seriously you have a wild misconception of these folks.
Jokes on you, I never said they weren't violent. It's who the proud boys are violent towards compared to the violence done to innocents by blm antifa. Proud boys were created to hit back against antifa blm, that was their sole reason for being created. Seems antifa blm were created to be violent towards anyone who is not one of them.
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When people laud BLM it's because black lives do matter.
I don't see people lauding the violence, which could be anybody, but which conservatives automatically decide are BLM, Antifa or both.
Antifa could be more likely, in cases where it is proven any were actually there. They're extremists, like Proud Boys. But when people just throw out there that any violence with black people in the vicinity HAD to be BLM, Antifa or both, it loses its punch after a while. I think conservatives have overplayed that hand.
Of course black lives do matter, as does all human life. When do you suppose blm and antifa are going to begin "peacefully" protesting in the streets of Chicago and other cities that have major black on black crime? More black people are harmed/killed by that then they are by cops. Do you think the blm founders, like Patrisse Cullors, will want that though? It really wouldn't help her agenda of using blm to destroy the country.
You excuse their violence and make wild claims saying it's not them, or other such nonsense.
Jokes on you, I never said they weren't violent. It's who the proud boys are violent towards compared to the violence done to innocents by blm antifa. Proud boys were created to hit back against antifa blm, that was their sole reason for being created. Seems antifa blm were created to be violent towards anyone who is not one of them.
Please show me where I excuse violence from folks. Unlike the GOP who calls the Jan 6th a tour, I call out those who commit violence and say they should do time.
And apparently you seem to approve of this violence because its against....people who think cops need to stop killing them. Got it.
And btw, "Unmask Freedom" is about not using masks.
Maybe it is strange to heap praises on the proud boys, and just as equally strange to heap praises on blm antifa.
Praising white supremacist right wing militia members is more that just strange.
The other candidate wasn't associated with BLM that was just a claim from the author defending her candidate not the school board candidate. Besides BLM is not comparable to the Proud Boys, what is exactly the Proud Boys mission and why are they involved in school board elections.
It's ok folks, you can oppose BLM and the Proud Boys at the same time. All you have to do is dislike intentionally misdirected/confused fear and anger. Unfortunately, this here boat runs on fear-fuel.
This. I mean they're both extremists. How is this a competition?
Of course black lives do matter, as does all human life. When do you suppose blm and antifa are going to begin "peacefully" protesting in the streets of Chicago and other cities that have major black on black crime? More black people are harmed/killed by that then they are by cops. Do you think the blm founders, like Patrisse Cullors, will want that though? It really wouldn't help her agenda of using blm to destroy the country.
How do you know which if any were Antifa?
The FBI found that *the violence* following Floyd's death was primarily wither non-political and opportunistic, as looting and damage during protests often are; or they were by extremists from both far ends of the spectrum, doing what extremists do, to wit: being extreme.
When will black people protest blacks murdering blacks...who knows. Would that make you feel better? I mean...isn't it up to people themselves what they protest? And why do you care? Go ahead at the next protest and stand on a pedestal and demand loudly that everyone protest black on black murders instead. See who follows.
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Please show me where I excuse violence from folks. Unlike the GOP who calls the Jan 6th a tour, I call out those who commit violence and say they should do time.
Here is one. You're tossing excuses around like candy on Halloween, so much excusing by you that any of your comments for the violent to be arrested comes off as completely hollow lip service.
Your "I wouldn't label them anarchists so much as very very upset citizens" had caused 113 eye injuries, which you were also poo pooing.
"Federal officers in Portland suffered 113 eye injuries from lasers, DHS official says" https://nypost.com/2020/08/04/federa...om-lasers-dhs/
The elk statue base suffered "severe" damage, much more than the "minor" damage you were claiming. It was removed because the authorities were extremely concerned that it might topple over, and maybe even fall on someone. Why were they targeting that statue anyway, other than to show they hate animals? Makes one wonder what they would have done if it had been a live elk, maybe it would have ended up like the little innocent puppy that was dragged around by blm antifa and then hung, in Memphis, during another of their riots. https://www.rt.com/usa/493706-portla...moved-damange/
I could go on.....
You see damage and you say, meh , big deal...when it actually is. You blame everyone except those who do the damage. If you can't blame others then you dismiss the damage or the severity of the damage. You make excuses, constantly.
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And apparently you seem to approve of this violence because its against....people who think cops need to stop killing them. Got it.
Got what? A bunch of bulls...? yeah you do. If you actually paid attention then you'd know I don't approve of anyone being violent. But continue with your Alinsky tactics...idc.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
Praising white supremacist right wing militia members is more that just strange.
"white supremacist right wing militia"?
^ sounds like leftist propaganda.
Meanwhile,
The leader of the PB's is not white.
There are other non-white members.
Unlike blm antifa, the PB's hadn't attacked innocent non-whites, or innocent whites for that matter.
They had a confederate flag or something? Yeah okay, so did at least one person with the Lincoln Project and y'all were good with it, y'all were also good with that person or others with the LP project being xenophobes.
So, spare me your faux outrage.
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The other candidate wasn't associated with BLM that was just a claim from the author defending her candidate not the school board candidate.
Except, the author didn't make that claim. Seems only you are making that claim.
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Besides BLM is not comparable to the Proud Boys, what is exactly the Proud Boys mission and why are they involved in school board elections.
There is no comparison, blm antifa are far more violent, especially towards the innocent and cops.
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How do you know which if any were Antifa?
The FBI found that *the violence* following Floyd's death was primarily wither non-political and opportunistic, as looting and damage during protests often are; or they were by extremists from both far ends of the spectrum, doing what extremists do, to wit: being extreme.
Lol, the FBI. Is this the same FBI that had tried to unseat Trump. The same FBI who ignored Hunter's laptop hard drive? etc...........
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When will black people protest blacks murdering blacks...who knows. Would that make you feel better? I mean...isn't it up to people themselves what they protest? And why do you care? Go ahead at the next protest and stand on a pedestal and demand loudly that everyone protest black on black murders instead. See who follows.
It would be a massive waste of time, apparently no one cares...including you. Besides, why would I want to be killed or beaten by them?
When people laud BLM it's because black lives do matter.
It's because they have a racist, blinded agenda that doesn't include the truth.
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Originally Posted by JerZ
I don't see people lauding the violence, which could be anybody, but which conservatives automatically decide are BLM, Antifa or both.
You refuse to see. A twisted agenda will do that.
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Antifa could be more likely, in cases where it is proven any were actually there. They're extremists, like Proud Boys.
Anitfa is nothing like the Proud boys. The Proud Boys are not usually the ones inciting the violence
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Originally Posted by JerZ
But when people just throw out there that any violence with black people in the vicinity HAD to be BLM, Antifa or both, it loses its punch after a while. I think conservatives have overplayed that hand.
Again, that's just you making things up.
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I mean...isn't it up to people themselves what they protest? And why do you care? Go ahead at the next protest and stand on a pedestal and demand loudly that everyone protest black on black murders instead. See who follows.
