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Old 10-06-2022, 07:54 PM
 
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I have a feeling this will not end well. Some of these people have probably committed worse crimes that no one knows about.
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Old 10-06-2022, 07:56 PM
 
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Democrats care more about criminals than law abiding Americans. Just more proof of that.
Yes and no one is doing anything about it.
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Old 10-06-2022, 08:01 PM
 
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Look further back in this thread for what the WH said
I scanned through some posts but did not see that. I assume they said more than 150.

Business Insider is guessing based on data available. There is not an actual number readily available. But I assume they are in the ball park. Maybe 200 or 100.
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Old 10-06-2022, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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IMHO, good move...........even if he is trolling for votes for the upcoming midterms.
Trolling for votes = doing something for the people who elected you.

I thought that's what representative government is SUPPOSED to do.

Trump could have followed Obama's lead on this. But - he didn't.
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Old 10-06-2022, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I have a feeling this will not end well. Some of these people have probably committed worse crimes that no one knows about.
Um, so you support imprisoning people because they might have done something wrong besides the thing they were convicted of? Oooooookkaaaaaay.
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Old 10-06-2022, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I have no issue with this. I believe it is a crime worthy of fines or whatever, not prison and certainly not at the federal level.

We keep hearing prisons are too overcrowded to get some seriously dangerous people off the streets. This should make some room for them.
While I don't have a problem with Biden's action here per se, touching on the bolded part of your statement, I'd be shocked if there are any inmates in federal prison today for simple marijuana possession, especially in light of the First Step Act signed into law by President Trump. Do many have federal convictions for simple marijuana possession? Absolutely, but my point is that pardon probably isn't necessary to get anyone out of prison in this instance.
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Old 10-06-2022, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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While I don't have a problem with Biden's action here per se, touching on the bolded part of your statement, I'd be shocked if there are any inmates in federal prison today for simple marijuana possession, especially in light of the First Step Act signed into law by President Trump. Do many have federal convictions for simple marijuana possession? Absolutely, but my point is that pardon probably isn't necessary to get anyone out of prison in this instance.
New York Post estimates there are about 6500 people who will receive pardons. This includes non-incarcerated people. It's true the feds haven't made a big deal out of simple possession for a long time. I've read estimates of around 150 people in prison, but there seems to be some disagreement on this. https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/biden-...na-possession/

Nevertheless, if you spend a lot of time traveling and/or camping on federal lands, as I do, this is significant news.

And it is even more significant that he is directing a new review of Schedule 1.

Keep in mind these pardons are for simple possession, not distributing. So no, if you are caught importing pounds from Mexico, this pardon will not apply to you.
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Old 10-06-2022, 09:35 PM
 
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It's the right thing to do.

But it's also a cynical vote grabber for the upcoming midterms.
They have been holding on to this gem for just the right moment. Right before our strategic oil reserves are drained!
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Old 10-06-2022, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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New York Post estimates there are about 6500 people who will receive pardons. This includes non-incarcerated people. It's true the feds haven't made a big deal out of simple possession for a long time. I've read estimates of around 150 people in prison, but there seems to be some disagreement on this. https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/biden-...na-possession/

Nevertheless, if you spend a lot of time traveling and/or camping on federal lands, as I do, this is significant news.

And it is even more significant that he is directing a new review of Schedule 1.

Keep in mind these pardons are for simple possession, not distributing. So no, if you are caught importing pounds from Mexico, this pardon will not apply to you.
Keep in mind that most of these convictions got pled down from more serious charges like possession with intent to sell (distribution).

Plea bargaining.
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Old 10-06-2022, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Good move, but they should exclude those who pled down from more serious crimes.
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