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Old 09-06-2018, 10:13 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Here in Minnesota we have been dealing with a smoking ban on restaurants and bars. The ban was struck down state-wide, except in the counties that surround Minneapolis/St. Paul. Many people are upset that smoking is not allowed in public places. I for one am extremely happy for this because I simply don't like the smell of cigarette smoke and all other types. My wife and kids have severe asthma so that is yet a more important reason for not wanting to be around the smoke.

Many people of course are whining that their rights are being taken away by these bans that have been in place for about a year now. My take on it is what about the rights of nonsmokers? What about the rights of people like my young kids who have asthma and can't go out to restaurants if there is a smoking section? It's a controversy where there are no winners...and everyone loses...like my mother-in-law who died due to smoking.
I think public smoking bans are fine but people should still be allowed to smoke in their homes or in designated smoking areas if they so choose. People are well-aware of the health risks and if they still choose to smoke, they don't need big government telling them they can't. Same goes for cannabis.
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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Should be up to the property owners if they want to allow it or not, municipalities if they want public outdoor bans in their area, and anyone should be able to do what they want in their own home assuming they arent hurting anyone else.
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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No it doesn't. That's never been proven. The only way it effects anyone is if they are shotgunning the second hand smoke. It's too diluted to be of any concern to anyone's health.
Tests have proven that it kills.
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Old 09-06-2018, 11:03 AM
 
Location: London
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Smokers are the worst litterers. Almost all of them think it's OK to throw their spent cigarette on the ground wherever the hell they feel like. Even if there's a f***ing ashtray right next to them.
I don't get how smokers consider it not littering. It's possibly the worst form of consumer littering, as it causes many wildfires.
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Old 09-06-2018, 11:06 AM
 
Location: London
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If it was THAT dangerous, they would step in and restrict access to cigarettes. This is exactly what they did when opioid prescription drugs started becoming a health concern, they went straight to the manufacturers and those supplying the drugs, they also targeted access, to make them very hard to obtain.

Keep in mind, the tobacco industry is EXTREMELY powerful and influential, they even have more power than the pharma industry.
Latter bolded explains why the former hasn't happened.
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Old 09-06-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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Most places are non smoking now. Not like it was in the 70's or 80's--workplaces, restaurants, etc.
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Old 09-06-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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For the most part, I do not say anything anymore when smokers do their nastiness near me.........just move away as quickly as possible.
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Old 09-06-2018, 11:41 AM
 
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thread necro.......
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Old 09-06-2018, 12:39 PM
 
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Most places are non smoking now. Not like it was in the 70's or 80's--workplaces, restaurants, etc.
Worst place for smoke here is Walmart. The employees stand right outside the front door and smoke on break and before they clock in. You walk right through it on the way in.
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Old 09-06-2018, 12:41 PM
 
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Here in Minnesota we have been dealing with a smoking ban on restaurants and bars. The ban was struck down state-wide, except in the counties that surround Minneapolis/St. Paul. Many people are upset that smoking is not allowed in public places. I for one am extremely happy for this because I simply don't like the smell of cigarette smoke and all other types. My wife and kids have severe asthma so that is yet a more important reason for not wanting to be around the smoke.

Many people of course are whining that their rights are being taken away by these bans that have been in place for about a year now. My take on it is what about the rights of nonsmokers? What about the rights of people like my young kids who have asthma and can't go out to restaurants if there is a smoking section? It's a controversy where there are no winners...and everyone loses...like my mother-in-law who died due to smoking.
Husband has breathing issues. We just had to stop going places where the smoking was bad. Now it's not such a problem.
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