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Old 12-27-2008, 04:49 PM
 
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That isn't going to happen. They will just end Israel's ability to subject the rest of the world to nuclear blackmail. And it'll be about time someone did.
Israel itself could wipe Iran of the planet. Fortunately for the world, Israel is not like Hamas. Israel is BETTER than Hamas, Israel is MORALLY SUPERIOR to Hamas, and Israel is INTELLECTUALLY SUPERIOR to Hamas.

It is only because of the restraint of civilized people that Hamas even exists.

 
Old 12-27-2008, 04:51 PM
 
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1200 years or more of uninterrupted land tenancy vs. "We lived here 1800 years ago." Yeah, that's exactly the same thing.

For what it's worth, most ethnologists believe that non-Bedouin Palestinians (the majority) are descended from pre-Islamic Semites in the region, that is, they are linguistically and culturally "Arabized" but predate the rise of Islam as inhabitants of the area. It's certainly possible that they are partly descended from Jews.
1200 years or more since Muhammad and his fellow savages invaded the Holy Land, annihilating anybody that didn't agree with him, and plundering the land? Is that what you're talking about?


Bottom line: Hamas needs to pull their heads out of their 7th Century arses and come into the 21st Century before it's too late.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 04:53 PM
 
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There's no such thing as the "Belfour Agreement." The Balfour Declaration was made unilaterally by Britain in 1917, abrogating a prior understanding made with the Arabs in 1915. The British Mandate (Note: not Zionist Mandate; British Mandate) was created in 1921.
Sounds like your beef should be with Britain then. Israel is a done deal. They've built farms, homes, cities and universities, and are raising their generations. Almost every large American corporation has a presence there. They're not going to walk away. Concentrate your energies on what it would take to make peace there, instead of bemoaning what happened in the past.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Ummm, excuse me, Mister Moral Superiority - YOU are the one who was just gloating about what a GREAT DAY it would be when Iran "gets the bomb."
It will be. That smug little smirk will get wiped off the Israelis' thieving faces PDQ.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Israel itself could wipe Iran of the planet. Fortunately for the world, Israel is not like Hamas. Israel is BETTER than Hamas, Israel is MORALLY SUPERIOR to Hamas, and Israel is INTELLECTUALLY SUPERIOR to Hamas.
Israel is a two-bit colonial apartheid state, and will go the way of the rest of the colonies in a matter of time.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 04:57 PM
 
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It will be. That smug little smirk will get wiped off the Israelis' thieving faces PDQ.
You shouldn't think you're safe anywhere on the planet from an Iran with nuclear capabilities. For instance, it's not exactly a secret as to how they feel about the United States. I assume the prospect of an all-out nuclear war doesn't bother you very much.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 04:58 PM
 
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It will be. That smug little smirk will get wiped off the Israelis' thieving faces PDQ.
So go ahead and let your hatred completely overwhelm all logic, reason, common sense and law.

Sorry, but your argument has no merit whatever.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Sounds like your beef should be with Britain then. Israel is a done deal. They've built farms, homes, cities and universities, and are raising their generations. Almost every large American corporation has a presence there. They're not going to walk away. Concentrate your energies on what it would take to make peace there, instead of bemoaning what happened in the past.
Britain screwed things up royally, but in the end they did not turn the keys over to the Israelis, and neither did the UN. The Israelis grabbed the land and declared independence. They are responsible for all the misery that followed, and all that continues to happen.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 04:59 PM
 
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Israel is a two-bit colonial apartheid state, and will go the way of the rest of the colonies in a matter of time.
Israel has the right to exist as a sovereign nation.

Your blind, seething hatred of that fact will not change it.
 
Old 12-27-2008, 05:01 PM
 
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Israel itself could wipe Iran of the planet. Fortunately for the world, Israel is not like Hamas. Israel is BETTER than Hamas, Israel is MORALLY SUPERIOR to Hamas, and Israel is INTELLECTUALLY SUPERIOR to Hamas.

It is only because of the restraint of civilized people that Hamas even exists.
Excellent point! They could very easily turn Tehran into glass, but they wouldn't do that.

Does anyone think Iran would exercise the same restraint if they had nuclear bombs at their disposal? No. In fact, that is their stated mission, to nuke Israel off the map.

I can't wait for the day when Israel is unfettered and unleased in their response. Or the day, hopefully soon, when Iran loses their nuclear bomb ambitions.
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