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I'm glad they caught this guy so quickly and I really do hope he was acting as a 'lone wolf' and not being used as a patsy.
The extreme rhetoric from the anti abortionists and fringe right wing ideologues obviously egged this guy on. They are the same type of loons who call Obama a "socialist" and make claims that he "pals around with terrorists". Very dangerous, and irresponsible behavior on their part. I hold these types just as responsible for the murder as the man who pulled the trigger.
Yeah okay. Some quotes: “The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infants is to kill it.”
The quote is from Woman and the New Race, and if you'd ever read it, you'd know that it comes from a chapter detailing the brutal toll taken in her time on parents and on the later children in large families. In her day, more than half of eleventh and twelfth children were dead by the age of one and many of the survivors by the age of five, usually after enduring the ravages of malnutrition and then incurable illnesses.
Here is the quote in context...
Many, perhaps, will think it idle to go farther in demonstrating the immorality of large families, but since there is still an abundance of proof at hand, it may be offered for the sake of those who find difficulty in adjusting old-fashioned ideas to the facts. The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it. The same factors which create the terrible infant mortality rate, and which swell the death rate of children between the ages of one and five, operate even more extensively to lower the health rate of the surviving members. Moreover, the overcrowded homes of large families reared in poverty further contribute to this condition. Lack of medical attention is still another factor, so that the child who must struggle for health in competition with other members of a closely packed family has still great difficulties to meet after its poor constitution and malnutrition have been accounted for. The probability of a child handicapped by a weak constitution, an overcrowded home, inadequate food and care, and possibly a deficient mental equipment, winding up in prison or an almshouse, is too evident for comment. Every jail, hospital for the insane, reformatory and institution for the feebleminded cries out against the evils of too prolific breeding among wage-workers.
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader
“(Eugenics) shows that we are paying for and even submitting to the dictates of an increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.” -Sanger, both in 1920
No, the second is actually from 1922 (The Pivot of Civilization), and of course your source could not have been bothered to produce that one in context either. Here it is...
Eugenics is chiefly valuable in its negative aspects. It is "negative Eugenics" that has studied the histories of such families as the Jukeses and the Kallikaks, that has pointed out the network of imbecility and feeble-mindedness that has been sedulously spread through all strata of society. On its so-called positive or constructive side, it fails to awaken any permanent interest. "Constructive" Eugenics aims to arouse the enthusiasm or the interest of the people in the welfare of the world fifteen or twenty generations in the future. On its negative side it shows us that we are paying for and even submitting to the dictates of an ever increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all--that the wealth of individuals and of states is being diverted from the development and the progress of human expression and civilization.
LOL Yet publicly she supported the Nazis' ideals. She personally disagreed with the methods but not the goals. She also gave speeches to the KKK. She told Congress: "Apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring"
No time now to hang around. I will simply say that you flat out humiliate yourself in the eyes of everyone who is familiar with Margaret Sanger every time (that I've observed) that you open your mouth about her. A person who had NEVER HEARD of Margaret Sanger would have a better understanding of her than you do.
Sad news, hopefully he will get a smart jury and find him not guilty, based on self defense of others. Ill stand in this great man's corner! He is a hero.
Sad news, hopefully he will get a smart jury and find him not guilty, based on self defense of others. Ill stand in this great man's corner! He is a hero.
Man charged in death of Kansas abortion provider - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090602/ap_on_re_us/us_abortion_shooting_suspect - broken link)
Justice has prevailed. He is caught. I hope this person has fun rotting in prison.
Just for good measure they should be checking to make sure he acted alone. If he did not which I doubt he did, they need to run the rest of the NUTCASES in as well.
Man charged in death of Kansas abortion provider - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090602/ap_on_re_us/us_abortion_shooting_suspect - broken link)
Justice has prevailed. He is caught. I hope this person has fun rotting in prison.
And, 'drum roll' the state is not going to seek the death penalty. If this crime was not premeditated murder, I don't what else it could be called, killing with love for babies in mind? No wonder I never cared for the state of Kansas.
The extreme rhetoric from the anti abortionists and fringe right wing ideologues obviously egged this guy on. They are the same type of loons who call Obama a "socialist" and make claims that he "pals around with terrorists". Very dangerous, and irresponsible behavior on their part. I hold these types just as responsible for the murder as the man who pulled the trigger.
The people at MSNBC say that Bill O'Reilly is to blame because he roused people against abortion. Could this be true?
And, 'drum roll' the state is not going to seek the death penalty. If this crime was not premeditated murder, I don't what else it could be called, killing with love for babies in mind? No wonder I never cared for the state of Kansas.
I think that you may find that we still had the death penalty up to about 3 years ago when the Supreme Court ruled that it wasn't to be used in one state that used it and the rest just stopped using it. This man will get either a hard 40 or hard 50 year sentence. When the word hard precedes the years in Kansas it means no chance of parole, ever. I think that either sentence will take this guy off the streets for the rest of his life.
I have lived in Kansas all but three years of my 76 and I love it for many reasons. The fact that we had the death penalty up to the end is one of the reasons I like the place.
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