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As a recent post about Canadian helathcare illustrated,while others might be happy with their system,it might just be because it is the only system they know....
How many supporters of UHC would like to have a system like the VA as their only source of healthcare?
Seems people were bitching and moaning about how horrible it was just a year or so ago...
Oh sorry, It IS about health care ...wouldn't you prefer the truth? Or do you enjoy the lies???
I would like you to post a response about health care, not bashing republicans. health care is not a partisan issue. Please try to put party affiliation aside so we can rationally discuss this.
The world isn't as black and white as you think. Republicans and Democrats need to try to compromise (and learn from each other) if an effective solution is to be found
there are many government healthcare systems besides the canadian model. i much prefer systems like france and the uk, where private providers exist for those who want to pay, but everyone has access to the health care they need regardless of income.
and private health care is the only system americans know, yet there is a large, mainstream political movement against it here. there is no such movement in any country with government health care.
It's crazy for a group of mere mortals to try to design 15 percent of the U.S. economy. It's even crazier to do it by August.
Yet that is what some members of Congress presume to do. They intend, as the New York Times puts it, "to reinvent the nation's health care system".
Let that sink in. A handful of people who probably never even ran a small business actually think they can reinvent the health care system.
Is this not a scary, crazy proposition?
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The administration estimates $1.5 trillion over 10 years with no increase in the deficit. But no one should take that seriously. When it comes to projecting future costs, these guys may as well be reading chicken entrails. In 1965, hospitalization coverage under Medicare was projected to cost $9 billion by 1990. The actual price tag was $66 billion.
Can we all admit that whenever the government "projects" and "estimates", they are virtually never right?
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Trust us, Obama says. "At the end of the day, we'll have significant cost controls," presidential adviser David Axelrod said. Give me a break.
We already did that with your failed stimulus, now you want to use the same tactic to ram through your disastrous HC?
Who has more incentive to keep you healthy? A private insurance company and medical establishment who would like to see you spend as much money as possible? Or a government entity that would like to spend as little as possible YET keep you healthy?
Answer seems obvious to me....
You have incentive to keep you healthy. I'd turn over healthcare to any bureaucrat today under a few conditions!!!
No diseases can be covered that result from irresponsible lifestyle
obesity-->hypertension, diabetes, renal failure, amputations, gangrene, etc, etc, etc, etc
smoking-->COPD, emphysema, chronic bronchitis, lung cancer
drinking/driving-->trauma
no illegals can be covered
no legal immigrant can be covered until they've paid into the system for many years
tort reform-->only 1% of the proceeds of a lawsuit can go to the lawyers. Panel of medical professionals set up to determine if it's truly malpractice. Doc's willingly admit about 20-30% of their treatment decisions are defensive in nature.
children-->covered until they turn 18. No exceptions (they didn't ask to be born to losers that didn't plan ahead)
No school bus can come within 1 mile of a drive-way. Make the kids walk two miles a day. Plus, it saves gas.
I would rather have government health insurance because the government is sometimes incompetent but the private insurance companies are always inimical. The government may make mistakes but the insurers will always try to cheat you out of your money.
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Just ask yourself; WHY would you trust the government....
