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I used to live next to a man who is100 percent hardcore Republican. He was the only Republican in our neighborhood (or at least the only one who made it known) and man oh man. I would NEVER bring my kids to him if I had any.
1) He was so racist. A black family moved in next to my house and he asks me "How do you like em ******s living next to you? The black man is nothing without the white man." I was like "Excuse me? I don't want to ever hear the word '******' ever again." Mind you, I was holding my neighbors three year old daughter as he said all this garbage. When Obama got elected, he was like "oh my god. We have a scumbag ****** from Chicago in the White House. Oh my god! It is the end when the ******s sit in the white house."
He is around 65 years old so he was alive when Africans were still discriminated against. Get this-he TRAINED his dog to ATTACK black people. One black person almost died and the police came and got the dog and told my neighbor that they were going to put the dog down. My neighbor said "Hell naw. You gonna put my dog down for a black man? I don't think so." But they did and he is still angry about it.
2) He hated gay people. we had a lesbian couple with a son move in a few houses down. No need to add more. You all get what he said he wanted to do.
3) He screams "SOCIALISM!" loudly and cries about his "freedom being taken away" now that Obama is president. YET-(now this is the best part) he happily collects social security/Medicare AND welfare! WTF?! He even told me this. He is like "Oh, it is ok once I get my checks in the mail." And now he is up and running around and going crazy of Universal Health Care. I have no idea why. He emails me these stupid pro Republican, anti Obama chain emails (despite the fact I told him not too) and then never replied when I refute them.
So....huh?! Yes, it is very selfish and hypocritical of these kinds of people doing that. It is ok if THEY are covered or if "socialism" helps them but heaven forbid ANYONE else.
And this, my friends....welcome to the Republican mentality.
All done?
Why hate on real senior citizens when their are fictitious racist white male bogeymen with which to slander those of us who oppose a government take over of our health care and 17% of the economy?
I'll address my comments to the white half of Odumbo if it makes you feel better. See, BO is all about BO and what's good for BO. He's a sociopath who does things that he fully realizes will harm the most needy among us, but he really doesn't care.
Cash for Clunkers will be a nightmare for the poorest Americans who desperately need those engines and transmissions that they are deliberately destroying. The price of used vehicles and running gear will increase in direct proportion to this program's "success". I envision a single mother who dropped a valve guide because all she could afford is garbage gas, never had her fuel system cleaned and now cannot afford the junk yard engine that used to be the cheap way out, but now they've become rare and pricey just like used cars.
Liberals never think things through.
Under questioning by members of the Senate Budget Committee, Douglas Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, said bills crafted by House leaders and the Senate health committee do not propose "the sort of fundamental changes" necessary to rein in the skyrocketing cost of government health programs, particularly Medicare. On the contrary, Elmendorf said, the measures would pile on an expensive new program to cover the uninsured. Though President Obama and Democratic leaders have repeatedly pledged to alter the soaring trajectory -- or cost curve -- of federal health spending, the proposals so far would not meet that goal, Elmendorf said, noting, "The curve is being raised." His remarks suggested that rather than averting a looming fiscal crisis, the measures could make the nation's bleak budget outlook even worse.
Is that allowed? I thought we were forced to accept Medicare once we hit 65. I would be interested in how you can opt out.
If you want to forego all the contributions you made to medicare throughout your working life, I'm sure that would let you optout. But good luck in finding private insurance. I had an individual BC/BS policy for 2.5 years on which I had not filed a single claim. The month before I turned 65 I recieved not one but two letters from BC/BS telling me that I MUST cancel my policy because they would not pay any benefits once I became eligible for medicare.
These people have PAID into medicare via taxes. That is very different then expecting someone else to pay for your health care. They have already paid for it is NOT free for them.
And you honestly believe that what they've paid in actually covers all of their care?
Well I can't say what the future holds for me but the government is running way ahead on me. The main benefit from the withholding is Part A (hospital) and I haven't been to the hospital since I was 25 -- 41 years ago. Also my husband died 12 years ago (3 weeks after turning 65) on the sofa from a heart attack, not costing medicare a dime. So I guess you could say we are doing our part to keep medicare solvent.
Is that allowed? I thought we were forced to accept Medicare once we hit 65. I would be interested in how you can opt out.
Under the current program you will automatically be covered at the age of 65 under Medicare Part A if you have accumulated enough work quarters. Medicare Part A only covers hospital charges. If you do not opt for Part B, you will have no coverage for the doctors who see you while you are hospitalized. You have to pay for Part B coverage. If you opt to doso, they will the Part B premium from your monthly social security check.
I am assuming you have not read the House Bill if you really believe the erroneous replies you gave to valid concerns. Shame on you for spreading disinformation.
Then you would be assuming wrong. Shame on YOU for believing the lies.
Have you read any of the posts in this thread? Or do you just spout the Obama party line? Obviously the seniors at the meetings knew more about government healthcare and that is why they were questioning!!!!!
You know, that doesn't really make sense. Most people I know ask questions because they DON'T know and are trying to figure it out.
You know, that doesn't really make sense. Most people I know ask questions because they DON'T know and are trying to figure it out.
Actually you have to know something in order to know what questions to ask. Understand?! I think you already did, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Don't know what driving has to do with the health care issue but what catagory do you think has the most auto accidents?
Teens have 4 times the accidents as any other group.
Funny you mention that, because teens and the elderly are exactly the same risk from what I just read in my growth and human development class last semester.
Nobody forces people over 65 to be on Medicare. It is totally optional and they can elect to pay for private insurance or join an HMO if they wish. Medicare is just the "public option" for those over 65.
No it's not.....you receive Part A (pays for the hospital) when you turn 65. Part B (pays for the doctor) gets deducted from your social security check (which you also start getting when you turn 65). If you want you can get a Medigap policy which helps pay for some of the things Medicare doesn't pay for (like the deductibles) but, you have to pay for it and it gets more expensive the older you get. If you don't want to pay for a Medigap policy, you can use an HMO by assigning what you pay back to the government for Part B, to an HMO instead (and then there's nothing else to pay).
You're right when it comes to Part D though, the prescription drug plan, it is optional (but, you pay for that too, if you take it and if you don't you have to pay cash for your drugs). As an example, I just got something filled for my mother who's 88....the cash price was $235 for 30 days of meds....through her Part D it was $51 for 90 days. FYI, Part D is purchased through a private insurer and not the government.
You can't get regular health insurance or regular HMO coverage once you hit 65....they won't allow you to.....there aren't even any rates published for it.....they only go up to age 64 (go look). If you working some where and choose not to retire and they've been providing you with health insurance, you'll still get it but, it will pay secondary to what Medicare pays.....Medicare becomes your primary insurance and your coverage with your employer with pick up what Medicare didn't pay (the deductibles).
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I would be interested in how you can opt out.
