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Old 09-10-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The "Moral" approach to health care right now covers them. Our facility gets a lump sum paid by taxpayers at the end of the fiscal year based on how many indigents we see (citizens ad not). They also take up one of the most expensive services in the hospital, the emergency department (second only to the OR).
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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Aero...what did he lie about? Provide the line, then provide the portion of the bill that refutes his statement
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Make the argument. Don't serve us platitudes and cliches. You claim the President lied, then point those lies out, explain them. Make the d--- argument.
Your back on that again? He lied when he claimed in a few months the economy would have recovered, he lied when he implied illegals would not benefit, he lied when he blamed Bush for the recession, and thats without looking at the speech..

Never met anyone who would not call a lie, a lie, because of the individual who told it, until I visited these boards.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:44 AM
 
Location: NY
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Aaah, the "what ifers"....

The answer to all of your questions is, yes, medical care has been, is, and will always be given - at taxpayer's expense, if necessary - in all of the scenarios you mention.
So just keep on doing what is blatantly wrong and stupid? No, lets CORRECT this mistake instead of making it worse! Amazing.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Liar, Liar, pants on fire............there, that should take care of them liberals.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:47 AM
 
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So just keep on doing what is blatantly wrong and stupid? No, lets CORRECT this mistake instead of making it worse! Amazing.
And your correction would be??
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:55 AM
 
Location: NY
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And your correction would be??
I'm not a politician or an expert on this sort of thing but I do know what is being proposed is wrong and un-constitutional. How is making it fine and dandy to insure ILLEGAL aliens (read criminals) the way to go? It's insanity.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Your back on that again? He lied when he claimed in a few months the economy would have recovered, he lied when he implied illegals would not benefit, he lied when he blamed Bush for the recession, and thats without looking at the speech..
I see somebody lying here, but it isn't the President. He never said that the economy would recover in a few months - he's been quite adamant that it would be a couple of years, and that unemployment would get worse for the next year. So you lied.

It's true that the health care bill does not cover undocumented workers. You are lying. And nobody decent uses the term "illegals." No person is "illegal."

Bush is primarily to blame for the recession, and especially for the magnitude of it and the level of crime that went along with it. You can stand athwart history and shout "No!" but nobody will hear you. You are lying.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:59 AM
 
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Your back on that again? He lied when he claimed in a few months the economy would have recovered, he lied when he implied illegals would not benefit, he lied when he blamed Bush for the recession, and thats without looking at the speech..

Never met anyone who would not call a lie, a lie, because of the individual who told it, until I visited these boards.

I see you haven't taken your medication yet, or maybe you've taken too much. Go back and read the speech, your reading subliminal messages as always. As far as never meeting anyone who would not call a lie a lie...Have you looked in the mirror this morning and introduced yourself.
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Location: NY
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"It's true that the health care bill does not cover undocumented workers. You are lying. And nobody decent uses the term "illegals." No person is "illegal.""
Oh really, idahogie? Man, you are way out there aren't you? No person is illegal? What do you base this idea on? The fact that they have come into this Country ILLEGALLY, makes them ILLEGAN ALIENS, PERIOD! Amazing.
And your assertion that the bill does not cover them is flat out wrong as proven by the OP.
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Oh really, idahogie? Man, you are way out there aren't you? No person is illegal? What do you base this idea on? The fact that they have come into this Country ILLEGALLY, makes them ILLEGAN ALIENS, PERIOD! Amazing.
Do you understand the difference between "illegals" and "illegal aliens" or "illegal immigrants?" Here's a hint: one of those terms has one word, and the others have two. That makes them different.

Understand? If not, DM me and I'll give you an even more detailed explanation.
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