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Old 12-16-2009, 01:12 PM
 
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Superheated mixtures? You mean superheated gas? The water will be 212°F (at sea level) but the steam will be hotter than that and the temp. of that steam will increase as more heat is added. the only way you change boiling points is to change pressures. This is how HVAC/R works.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Are you accusing our President of yet another lie? It sure sounds like it since he did say that with Cap and Trade the price of electricity would go up drastically. Darn it, somehow warmers just can't keep their stories straight sometimes.
Link?
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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It can in that city under the sea.
Which one is that? I haven't been there.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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Well, let me be clear. You can have superheat liquid, or even subcooled liquid, but it's not likely to ever happen unless you're on a mission to make it happen. Although subcooled liquids are more likely. Like if you put a beer in the fridge and as soon as you take it out it starts to freeze over.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:19 PM
 
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Which one is that? I haven't been there.
Any one of them that are below sea level. It was a joke anyways...
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Then you don't understand the statement.

The temperature of the water can be 220 degrees...still boiling, still turning INTO steam, but there will still be liquid water higher than 212. Have you not heard of superheated mixtures?
Not at 1 atmosphere of pressure. Water stays at 212°F until all liquid has been converted. And yes I'm quite familiar with the properties of superheated steam.

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The temperature required to boil water in Denver is LESS than in Miami--that doesn't mean that the water cannot hold a temperature higher than the boiling point as it boils.
Again not a 1 atmosphere of pressure.

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Speaking of big words, I'm pretty sure yours was "BOOM!"...
That is what I did when in the service. We made big BOOMs.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Any one of them that are below sea level. It was a joke anyways...
I understood. At Atlantis water probably boils at > 212°F.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:23 PM
 
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speaking of super heated water, be careful with water and microwaves!

ive boiled water in them and then when taking it out, it goes boom splash!

but this is an interesting topic considering the subject.

calabrating a thermometer gets dicy when you need to use boiling water doesnt it?

Tucson for example has a different boiling point than the Death Valley....just sayin'
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Superheated mixtures? You mean superheated gas? The water will be 212°F (at sea level) but the steam will be hotter than that and the temp. of that steam will increase as more heat is added. the only way you change boiling points is to change pressures. This is how HVAC/R works.
Nope, I mean liquids.

You can heat water beyond 212 degrees in a microwave without it boiling, But drop a cube of sugar into it, and it practically explodes. It's superheated.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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Nope, I mean liquids.

You can heat water beyond 212 degrees in a microwave without it boiling, But drop a cube of sugar into it, and it practically explodes. It's superheated.
A laboratory curiosity. Tell us where you can have boiling water over 212?
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