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Old 12-21-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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Why do people think that getting married and/or having kids makes you mature or more mature?

I don't agree with this.

You could be Single with no kids and be very responsible, educated and have lot of experience in life OR you could be married with kids and be broke, not caring, lazy, etc. I could go on and on.

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One of the many fallacies and misinformation floating around society that people think is true, just like astrology, beating kids makes them better, only the male should be the breadwinner etc.
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:30 PM
 
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that post is about women only, marriages (straight ones anyway) have TWO partners a woman AND a man. According to you ALL married PEOPLE (not just women) are not preffered as employees, yet the reference is only about women...keep trying.
Does it matter if its women or men?
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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So - you have lived with someone for years and years? You have this sort of relationship experience that you can comment on the different problems that a single person has versus someone who is in a serious relationship?

Just because you keep saying something doesn't make it true. I'm a millionaire! I'm a millionaire! Nope. Still not true. Is there one specific type of job that you are referring to - because then it actually might be applicable. For instance, maybe a pimp would prefer his hookers to be single that way he doesn't have to deal with any jealous boyfriends or husbands. Perhaps the government prefers their spies to be single that way they don't have to worry about the spy's family being used against the spy. Otherwise - most of the people I know in big companies are married. Big whoop.
I would like to stay to the OP's topic.
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:38 PM
 
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There are so many guy's paying child support and they don't take responsiblity. That is not mature.

If they are raised with immature parents then they should not have that child in first place right? That would mean more maturity staying childless.




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You are right. It often, if not usually doesn't relate.

Start with a young girl/woman who eithed has a child outside of marriage or makes a poor decision in who her (temporary) husband will be and you are already starting with someone who is in the bottom third of maturity.

Occasionally, having a child will trigger an urge to grow up but many have so far to go that they will find it difficult to succeed.

Such women tend to be attracted to the lazy and immature young males too, because the are "fun" and "not boring", further compounding their long term problems. Many such men will either never grow into functional people or will only barely acheive this after a couple of decades.

True maturity is the willingness to focus on what is important, put off immediate gratifiaction and work and save to acheive one's goals.

Among most young men, such maturity is considered "boring" and is too long for the average entitlement princess to wait. Such men often have little success in getting into a relationship. I knew many like that in the years from high school to my mid 30s. Eventually, such men have things that single mothers, those who failed to settle or aimed too high and were used, now want. However, by this late stage, marriage seems like a poor risk for them and unless they find an exceptional women (few are left single, the good ones seldom get divorced and how many widows do you know?), are reluctant to take a big risk with their future.

Most of the kids today are raised in households with an immature parent (or occasionally parents) and the massive case loads at children's services attests to this problem.
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:43 PM
 
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In my opinion...

Marriage SHOULD make you less shallow because that takes you out of the dating game. And you shouldn't really care how attractive or unattractive other people are if you are committed to someone.

Having children SHOULD make you less petty because you realize there are larger things in life than how a person dresses, why a person is socially awkward, or what kind of car a person drives.

Of course, this is all in theory.

In practice, ehhh...
Marriage does not take you out of the dating game. There is BBD. People do search for others. Why would you want to be someone unattractive?
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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I would like to stay to the OP's topic.
LOL! Is that how you get out of backing up your assertions?
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Good grief!!! I bet if someone said something as vague and innocuous as "some married people are mature" or "some people own houses" - you would try to argue about that as well!!!
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:27 PM
 
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Good grief!!! I bet if someone said something as vague and innocuous as "some married people are mature" or "some people own houses" - you would try to argue about that as well!!!
Negative.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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There are exceptions to every rule. Yes, it's possible to be lazy and a parent. But it's much more common for parents to work harder and behave responsibly because they HAVE children.

And usually they don't have money or time to party after junior arrives anyway.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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Does it matter if its women or men?
no it doesnt, but you stated people you never specified women, hence you make false/generalized statements that have no merit
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