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There is a difference between being a "nice guy" and being a "good man." The primary difference is that one typically pines after someone he'll never get, and allows himself to be a doormat, and the other knows when to bow out and pursue something better.
Many men are doing that when they remain single. They will soon be in the majority.
I think we need to determine what a nice guy is, because there are plenty of frauds out there.
I think as long as you respect people and aren't out to hurt people in any way, is probably a baseline. And there's a whole lot of areas to be filled in between that will define a nice guy.
I think as long as you respect people and aren't out to hurt people in any way, is probably a baseline. And there's a whole lot of areas to be filled in between that will define a nice guy.
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I think it's much more complex than it seems. While I think some of the self-proclaimed 'nice guys' are really just socially-maladjusted young lads who need an object to lay the blame on, I really DO thing some of them are just plain frustrated...like others have said, they may simply be physically unattractive, and they've been fed this belief - often by other women - that if you're nice, you treat her well blah blah you can get a woman despite being fugly, so they go about believing this. When it turns out to be not completely true they get bitter.
I've never played the 'nice guy' card. It's other people who've told me I'm 'nice'...I always tell them I'm not as nice as I seem, I'm just an average guy with all the faults and hopefully some redeeming features that come with that. I'm not even really bitter about my lack of dating success because I haven't even got there, more frustrated at other things which are preventing me from even being ready to date.
But alas, what we need is more understanding on both sides. There are a lot of lonely boys and girls out there, so all these broad generalizations do is spawn more bitterness/hatred for the opposite sex. We should begin to think of people as individuals, instead of just male or female. You'll always find exceptions to any supposed 'rule' if you look enough...
I am only giving what women I their 20s want, excitement and to be treated like an object if women don't like being treated Like an object then they would not reward a guy like me with sex. Women do get sick of bad boys in their 30s abd they do love to complain "where have all the nice guys gorne" I can tell you where they went, you women turned them after years of using them while only having sex with the bad boys
You also said in the other thread, that you wish you could be the nice guy you really are, which makes you a phony. Nothing personal, just an observation. But hey, more power to ya, if youare getting what you want out of life, then full steam ahead. Dont hang too many mirrors in your house though....
People won't stop talking about "nice guys" for precisely the same reason people won't stop labeling Feminists as shrewish harpies hell-bent on blaming men for every evil they perceive:
Because the self-proclaimed Nice Guys are bitter, resentful and above all VOCIFEROUS. It's the same as Feminists; are all Feminists like what I described above? Quite obviously not. But the loudest ones ARE.
And the squeaky wheel gets the oil... or at least gets noticed via irritation and once it's been noticed it's very difficult to ignore.
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Originally Posted by Ascension2012
You also said in the other thread, that you wish you could be the nice guy you really are, which makes you a phony. Nothing personal, just an observation. But hey, more power to ya, if youare getting what you want out of life, then full steam ahead. Dont hang too many mirrors in your house though....
And why must it be one of the other? Isn't there a middle ground between a sycophantic suck-up and an insensitive boor?
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