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Ladies if you don't want to date these so-called 'nice guys' then don't even think about them.
Ladies who don't like nice guys couldn't get one if their lives depended upon it. Invariably women who date only "bad boys" have self-esteem issues and tons of other emotional baggage. Good guys aren't attracted to such women and gravitate towards ladies who are happy, emotionally healthy and mature.
Ask yourself this: would you want a bad house? Bad car? Bad job? Bad son or daughter? Bad life?
Of course the answers would all be negative. What does it say about a woman who covets a bad man?
Ladies who don't like nice guys couldn't get one if their lives depended upon it. Invariably women who date only "bad boys" have self-esteem issues and tons of other emotional baggage.
Ask yourself this: would you want a bad house? Bad car? Bad job? Bad life?
Of course the answers would all be negative. What does it say about a woman who covets a bad man?
Plenty.
Yeah, but the problem is... most of these guys who say they are so nice aren't really all that nice. Most are just boring people who spend their whole day obsessing over these women and don't do anything about actually treating them well.
All the women on here admit they don't want an overly clingy boyfriend and look for those red flags. If a guy who is too afraid to talk to them, is a complete doormat for them and whatever more... that's just asking for a low self esteem clingy boyfriend. I'm sorry but these guys are not cool, they are not nice, they are just wimps who are afraid to talk to women.
Extroverted people who are not afraid to talk to women are not always jerks. They don't always treat women like dirt either. It's all just a simple stereotype that guys who are too afraid to approach a woman use to make themselves feel better.
"Nice guy" just usually means an ugly guy who is below their standards who is too busy complaining about women, and less busy fixing up his life. There's nothing positive about these "nice guys". Besides the fact that they're human doormats and a woman can clean him dry and move on to the next guy who is going to make their lives actually fun and interesting.
Still equating "nice guy" with "wimp" and "doormat". "Nice guy" just means a guy who treats his woman well and is nice to other people, too. Kind = nice. Nice guys come in a variety of personality types. Human variation is endless. Why do we keep dealing in extremes here? Life is nuanced.
Still equating "nice guy" with "wimp" and "doormat". "Nice guy" just means a guy who treats his woman well and is nice to other people, too. Kind = nice. Nice guys come in a variety of personality types. Human variation is endless. Why do we keep dealing in extremes here? Life is nuanced.
"Nice guy" is different than a nice guy.
The term "nice guy" DOES mean a wimp, doormat type guy.
I think it's pretty obvious that all women want a guy who treats them well. There's a HUGE difference between being a stereotypical "nice guy" and just treating women with respect.
Yeah, but the problem is... most of these guys who say they are so nice aren't really all that nice. Most are just boring people who spend their whole day obsessing over these women and don't do anything about actually treating them well.
All the women on here admit they don't want an overly clingy boyfriend and look for those red flags. If a guy who is too afraid to talk to them, is a complete doormat for them and whatever more... that's just asking for a low self esteem clingy boyfriend. I'm sorry but these guys are not cool, they are not nice, they are just wimps who are afraid to talk to women.
Extroverted people who are not afraid to talk to women are not always jerks. They don't always treat women like dirt either. It's all just a simple stereotype that guys who are too afraid to approach a woman use to make themselves feel better.
"Nice guy" just usually means an ugly guy who is below their standards who is too busy complaining about women, and less busy fixing up his life. There's nothing positive about these "nice guys". Besides the fact that they're human doormats and a woman can clean him dry and move on to the next guy who is going to make their lives actually fun and interesting.
I agree with this. The guys who would never allow that to happen will never be a "nice guy". It's too much for some women to handle. They like being in control at all times. Therefore they actively seek out these wimpy men who basically have nuts the size of peas.
The term "nice guy" DOES mean a wimp, doormat type guy.
I think it's pretty obvious that all women want a guy who treats them well. There's a HUGE difference between being a stereotypical "nice guy" and just treating women with respect.
LOL!! NOW you tell us, umpteen threads and hundreds of pages of so much endless debate later! Finally, someone offered a definition of what it is we're talking about!
You can bet most of the guys were going by your definition, while the women saying they like nice guys were going by a completely different definition! Wow, talk about from Mars and Venus! Speaking two different languages completely.
SO, ladies, do you agree with/accept burgler's definition of "nice guy"?
we have this other thread back in the day where we concluded that there are 3 types of men (in this context)
1) nice guy - nice as a form of bribery to get something out of a girl, doormat, desperate, smothering and Dr Jekyll turns in to Mr Hyde when rejected, not relationship material because he doesnt love himself enough to love someone else, needs to work on insecurity/confidence issues etc etc
2) bad boy - the guy that the 'nice guy' believes he has to be to get someone, doesnt care about any women just himself, will cheat on you if given the chance, presents a 'challenge', seems more exciting and confident than the nice guy, women will attempt to change him but cannot, not relationship material because he loves himself more than he could love anyone else etc etc
3) REAL MAN - the guy that is actually a nice person BUT is not a doormat and will stand up for himself, treats women with respect BUT also treats himself with respect, is confident, can provide for his family/wife.
nice guys should stop trying to be guy number 2, women can see right through them. They should aim to be guy number 3, that is if being in a relationship appeals to them
OK, that ^^^ makes a lot of sense. So when women say they like "nice guys", most of them really mean they like "real men". Still, I've seen women go for the shy guys, as in: actively recruit them. Love works in mysterious ways, there's no accounting for human preference. Humans are known to be very unpredictable.
These labels are insane. People should just be themselves and quit blaming everything and everyone for their lacks of successes in life.
I agree. You shouldn't be "trying" to be anyone but yourself. If someone doesn't like it scr*w them!
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Speaking two different languages completely.
