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I have not seen a marriageable woman in a while, I don't really see the point of marriage nowadays (unless men don't know what to do with their money). Women still want all the benefits of a marriage but they don't want to accept responsibilities that used to come with that marriage. Women no longer are under pressure of higher powers to stick with and care for their men. Their compass is feeling of "love" burning in their chest, it's a duty of men to keep that fire burning (or at least provide desired financial and social status for her to take care of other things on the side). Today she "loves" you, tomorrow she feels that sensation is getting weaker (or your paycheck is getting lighter) and, thus, she's no longer under any obligation to you. Women expect their men to make more money (it's a must), always climb status ladder (a should), provide companionship and friendship (soul mating is a rage), be supportive (i.e. always do what she says but, at the same time, remain a man she could respect.), be a psychic, girlfriend and shrink in one package, satisfy her carnal needs, guess what a princess wants you to be today (an Alpha male or a malleable gentle boy...), make up for all the depravities of the world and immediate social/family environment.... In other words, marriage has become a second job for a man, the job that doesn't pay even minimum wage, frequently, the job doesn't pay anything, even cheap sex.
Modern marriage almost lost its original meaning and purpose. It has become so much more than a procreation and survival union of two humans. There are so many expectations on the woman's side, yet men cannot get their very modest (and quite stable) marriage wishes come true.
What expectations are you talking about on the woman's side that have increased? That if she is realistic she'll work full time, and take care of household duties and child raising with little help from her husband? What are the modest wishes of men are you talking about? Are you married? Do you spend time with average married folk or are you parroting the manosphere?
I don't understand people who say they don't want kids, but still want to get married. Whats the point? The ONLY reason why I would ever get married is because I do want to have kids one day, and I believe thats the best way to raise kids.
Last time I checked marriage was between two adults, not two adults who only want children.
i think thats the attitude of a lot of younger men. I know i don't want to get married because that's basically signing my life away to a woman. guys never benefit from divorce, the woman gets the kids, the house and alimony. i understand a lot of guys are losers and may want to not lose the only woman they ever got (reminds me of my brother) but its a losing game for normal guys.
^ I think it has a lot to do with seeing your friends or people your own age already married and having children. I'm certainly in that spot right now... everyone's either posting picture of their engagements, weddings, or 'I'm pregnant!' news. It feels like time is running out and I can't even get a date lol
So basically women only want to get married because all their friends are doing it? Yeah thats a marriage thats going to last.
Guys NEVER benefit from divorce, the woman gets the kids, the house and alimony. I understand a lot of guys are losers and may want to not lose the only woman they ever got (reminds me of my brother) but its a losing game for normal guys.
Guys DO benefit from divorce! Guys can walk away with a tidy bundle, if she's paid for the house. Guys can and do get the kids, at least 1/2 custody, if not full custody, if they want it. This cliche stuff is very outdated. So last millenium!
I think thats the attitude of a lot of younger men. I know I don't want to get married because that's basically signing my life away to a woman. Guys NEVER benefit from divorce, the woman gets the kids, the house and alimony. I understand a lot of guys are losers and may want to not lose the only woman they ever got (reminds me of my brother) but its a losing game for normal guys.
+1
Every few weeks I run into men who share with me their horror stories regarding marriage. This week I had one very successful Korean man warn me about marriage because his marriage is so messed up and sucking the life out of him it's not even funny. Koreans are normally not this open to non Koreans so I know he's really up against the ropes for him to speak to me about it.
Then another man in his 40's (a business man) told me he will NEVER get married again. He lost his his prior businesses from his x wife along with property he acquired for investments. Oh, and the divorce hasn't been finalized after 5 years as his x keeps fighting and taking him back to court so he's shelling out thousands of dollars as this continues to drag on all while he's taking care of his kids and mother who health is ailing.
Meanwhile, as someone else pointed out, what is there to really gain from marriage? Nothing, with much to lose. Especially from a man's standpoint. Our judicial system is still living in the stone ages granting woman half of another man's fortune even in cases where she doesn't deserve it, which is most in my opinion.
There's my rant.
Whose judicial system are we speaking of? In much of the US, alimony is determined by who made more money during the marriage and has a time limit. In much of the US, custody defaults to 50/50.
Change is slow in coming everywhere, but it is coming. THAT is what needs to change, the law. But despite the Mr Grumpy pants here, most men still do want love and commitment.
Guys DO benefit from divorce! Guys can walk away with a tidy bundle, if she's paid for the house. Guys can and do get the kids, at least 1/2 custody, if not full custody, if they want it. This cliche stuff is very outdated. So last millenium!
Every few weeks I run into men who share with me their horror stories regarding marriage.
Women's horror stories win, hands down, if you want to go there. Some women barely survive marriage, in fact, some don't. Some end up dead. Do we really want to go down the horror-story path?
I know horror stories in both genders, including one where a woman was cheated on by her husband, they got divorced and she had to pay him alimony!
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