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If you explored a correlation between liking the color pink and liking the singer Beyonce then that might be interesting. To suggest however that liking pink is what is causing those people to like Beyonce would be entirely ridiculous. That is essentially what you are doing here however.
Yep, one of the main rules of scientific research is that correlation does not equal causation. Vic is making that fundamental error (among many others) allllll over the place throughout this entire thread. It's entertaining to watch, though.
Uh....yes...have you read your own posts? Everyone else seems to have figured it out. You're "citing" all sorts of vague sketchiness in a weak attempt to support your extremely biased, warped, inaccurate viewpoint, and attempting to pass it off as some sort of well-reasoned scientific approach. Nobody is buying it. Nobody. You've surely noticed that by now.
Oh I fully intend to work through all the links but my post was turning into a wall of text and too easy for you to run away form using the old "TL;DR" excuse. What is clear from your first two links is that they do not support - at all - the assertions you are trying to make off the back of them. In fact quite the opposite as the second link not only found no significant effects - it suggested off the back of this reasons why earlier studies seemed to.
Instead of acknowledging any of this however you simply ask me to brush over it and read on. The gentlemanly thing would have been to acknowledge that the first two links do not support your case - quite the opposite in fact - and retract them. Instead you just brushed past my entire post and ignored it.
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There is also research (cited in the post you - what's the word you used? Oh yeah, cherrypicked)
Oh that is a weak effort. I cherry picked nothing. I am going through them in the EXACT order that YOU cited them. That is the exact _opposite_ of cherry picking son, so get over yourself please.
I will go through the rest of them in the same order. Though your performance here suggests it will be a waste of time as you will ignore and skip over everything I say in favor of hop skipping and jumping to the next link you can find - and the next - and the next - without acknowledging even once that what you posted each time failed.
So far I have invested the time in two of yours links. So far they have been 100% fail. We will see how the next ones I read fare but I am not hopeful.
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As you dismiss the other links, don't forget to dismiss that one.
Again weak as I am dismissing nothing. I am going through them 100% sequentially. The only person here dismissing is YOU given you ignored my entire evaluation of the first two links and skipped on to the later ones. Seems you hold yourself to a much lesser standard you hold everyone else to.
I imagine it is enjoyable, seeing only what you want to see in the research provided...
Well it seems you are the only one doing that. I have only read through the first two citations so far but they do not support the claims you are making off the back of them - AND the quotes you cherry picked out of them do not support the same conclusions one reaches when reading and evaluating the ENTIRE papers in each case.
So it very very much does seem like someone IS only seeing what they want in these papers - and that someone is you. Again however we will see how it goes with the next links when I put time into them. Because that is what I do. I actually READ the entire link when someone offers a citation - and put time into evaluating it and constructing my reply to it. Instead of spending 5 minutes glancing over all your links and then dismissing them all out of hand. I would have somewhat expected you to appreciate someone actually reading your citations and taking the time to go through them sequentially and in depth - instead of this dismissive nonsense and ignored posts I have been greeted with instead.
My assertion was not that correlation showed causation. It was that pornography was dangerous, and every link supports that conclusion in different ways and different aspects.
And I'm not ignoring you; I'm waiting for you to respond in full to that first post in its entirety, insteading of pointing at how one particular link doesn't support an argument I didn't even claim it did.
My assertion was not that correlation showed causation. It was that pornography was dangerous, and every link supports that conclusion in different ways and different aspects.
Except that they dont. I already evaluated and considered the first two links. I intend to find time tomorrow to go through the rest and see if they do support your assertion or not. I am not hopeful.
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And I'm not ignoring you
Yes. You are. You made an assertion. You gave links for it. I evaluated the first two and found that they in NO WAY support your assertion (in fact the second one quite the opposite - it refutes your assertion) but you continue to claim "every link supports that conclusion" when it does not.
So that is ignoring me. Very much so. You have not addressed a single thing I said in the post that refuted the first two links. Not one thing. You simply ignored the entire post and brushed it aside with a dismissive "Read on".
Not to mention the fact that your poor defense of your assertion is being used to entirely ignore the OTHER thread of our conversation which you last ignored by skipping over and running away form post #131 above.... which is that you have still not defended (except with repeated assertion) the opinion that one should purge ones thoughts of anything that is improper or unwelcome or unwanted by others in ones own thoughts. You act like somehow entertaining thoughts and fantasies that are unwelcome or "wrong" in the real world is wrong - yet I see no support for this at all - anywhere.
So not only are you ignoring my main post evaluating your links - you are using that ignoring tactic as a method of ignoring my last post on the other thread of our conversation. I expected more from you given your post history as an atheist. I am rather let down.
I would not see any harm to my relationship with my bf or husband. It is so natural. I know that if I do not allow him to watch porn, he will watch definitely when I am not at home or I cannot be near him all the time.
I would not see any harm to my relationship with my bf or husband. It is so natural. I know that if I do not allow him to watch porn, he will watch definitely when I am not at home or I cannot be near him all the time.
So if you didn't approve, he would do it anyway? And that thought doesn't bother you?
If you have an understanding and you're fine with him watching pornography, great. But there should at least be trust in a relationship.
So if you didn't approve, he would do it anyway? And that thought doesn't bother you?
If you have an understanding and you're fine with him watching pornography, great. But there should at least be trust in a relationship.
That is the nature of men. So, it doesnt matter whether i approve or not. If the result will be the same, why do i bother myself? I dont think that men who are in relationships do not watch porn films because of their girl friends. They watch.
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I dont think that men who are in relationships do not watch porn films because of their girl friends. They watch.