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IME, the "turn-on" comes before the idea to watch pornography. Maybe men and women are different along these lines.
Interesting. It sounds like you're talking about women here instead of men. The vast majority of the time on this forum, and what I've read elsewhere, is that men are more visual than thinking when it comes to getting turned on and it's the reverse for women.
If you have any questions about evidence on the subject of pornography, just let me know. Don't troll behind me just to accuse me of trolling, lol.
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Interesting. It sounds like you're talking about women here instead of men. The vast majority of the time on this forum, and what I've read elsewhere, is that men are more visual than thinking when it comes to getting turned on and it's the reverse for women.
Yes, it is mildly ironic. But "mildly" because I'm not saying that men don't first see something that turns them on. I'm sure most men do get turned on as a result of some image most of the time. But it's at this point they turn on the pornography, not before. Only exception being maybe when guys watch pornography together, which, is just a whole other kind of wrong!
Yes, it is mildly ironic. But "mildly" because I'm not saying that men don't first see something that turns them on. I'm sure most men do get turned on as a result of some image most of the time. But it's at this point they turn on the pornography, not before. Only exception being maybe when guys watch pornography together, which, is just a whole other kind of wrong!
Well, you said it was before, so I'm not really following. No matter. Carry on.
No, keeping in mind that this is all based on our individual experiences and is not the basis of either of our arguments, I'd still like for us to understand one another.
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I'm not saying that men don't first see something that turns them on. I'm sure most men do get turned on as a result of some image most of the time. But it's at this point they turn on the pornography, not before.
(meaning they do not turn on the pornography before behind aroused, the majority of the time)
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Well, you said it was before, so I'm not really following.
Here is what I said:
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IME, the "turn-on" comes before the idea to watch pornography.
That is, a man typically gets sexually aroused and then turns to pornography as a result. The way you and findly185 talk about it, it sounds that women frequently consciously make the decision to get aroused and that... lol, IME, is not what men do most of the time.
A study was done to quantify the effects of internet porn on young men. It wasn't possible to find a control group because 100% of the men surveyed use internet porn - no one isn't using it!
When I told the ex that this is leading to a form of erectile dysfunction in young men due to desensitization, her response was one of utter disgust and she said that it serves them right... and they should go blind too. This wasn't a joke. It was genuinely hostile.
Is it any wonder I divorced the *****? While the bonanza of internet novelty is a problem, this is clearly a completely normal drive in men. Yet her response is to despise men for who and what we are.
The ex is a lost cause. But I wonder, are women finally outgrowing this naïve view of men - that our basic impulses are disgusting? It is my perception that younger women are generally more accepting of pornography. More and more women admit to using porn themselves. But I don't know if there have always been women who are comfortable with sexuality and would have always been okay with porn, or if the views of women are indeed generally changing across the board.
The fact is that before the internet was Playboy and Penthouse, and before that were adult books, and before that was the bra and panty section of the JC Penny's catalogue. The only thing that has really changed is the degree of access, and the range of novelty available.
eh....who cares, if he wants to look at porn so be it, does not bother me in the slightest. It isn't like he is going to go lusting after those women and trying to find them and get a date or something. No big deal and I am in no way, shape or form "threatened" by any other woman on this planet. My husband is married, he knows he is married and if he did not want to be with me and I did not want to be with him we would not be married.
If you have any questions about evidence on the subject of pornography, just let me know.
Right...I'm going to ask you a question based on the complete and utter cluelessness you've demonstrated on this thread. Enjoy that delusion. I know this topic. Many others here know this topic. You do not know this topic.
* Porn might make it a little easier not to have a girlfriend/wife, but it is not a driving force. Anyone who says this is viewing women as merely inferior sex objects to photography.
* Some posters think it is healthy for men to be motivated by their sex drives to seek out women (eschewing masturbation). What? So you are OK with rape then. If I guy needs a built-up sperm count and a raging hard-on to go out and meet women, they should keep garden hoses in singles bars to keep the horny animals at bay.
* If porn movies are so awful and dangerous to women, women should also be threatened by makeup, high heels, short skirts, most movies and sitcoms, most female newcasters, most female actresses, etc. etc. Sexual titillation is everywhere nowadays.
* We are turning alot of other things into pornography. Lush, planned photos of houses taken in sunshine idealize the unit itself. Nature videos zooming for closeups of animal species is not natural, children do not learn respect for the animals lives, only cute, gimme, I wanna touch. Photos of a frozen dinner are never accurate to the contents. We are using photography to idealize people, places and things, leaving the real paled in comparison.
* Concern should only come if certain boys/men get truly obssessive about it. The men I've seen described as sex addicts are indeed problem people who need help. Apparently Lindsey Vonn is trying to give Tiger Woods that help by using her... oh nevermind.
I completely get that all men look at porn, that doesn't bother me at all. Men are EXTREMELY visual, much moreso than women, which is why I think many women don't understand nudie mags and porn.
Nope, I've yet to meet a single guy that didn't look at porn and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I watch porn here and there as well, and think it can be fun watching it with a partner. The problem came when he started suggesting plastic surgery and putting me down because I didn't look like those women. There were also certain sex acts that we tried and I didn't feel comfortable with or didn't like and he made me feel terrible about it because apparently it was 'my job' to make him happy and my happiness and pleasure didn't factor into that at all.
That guy is a d-bag, JJ.
You're better than that.
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Enjoy that delusion. I know this topic. Many others here know this topic. You do not know this topic.