Women's view of men and pornography (single, husband, young, family)
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I think that procreation is the basic drive, while porn is just the visual aspect that uses this basic drive to induce pleasure. Telling that watching porn is the basic drive in people is just plain ignorant or even stupid.
On the other hand, it is uniformly known that hyper-stimulation is a terrible thing. Porn does that in general and it's also known. People should be aware of it and be able to control their lives, not let themselves to wait when other employees (or their boss) isn't around so that they can check out for more porn clips. This stage is already very critical and they should start realizing it (but they generally don't) and try with self-willpower to get the control of their lives back. If they can't do it, they should realize that they're becoming addicted and take it very seriously.
On the other hand, what psychologists don't want to say is that educational system is making hyper-stimulated idiots as well.
Many of employers WILL test their employees with small psychological tests. Bad thing is the following - many great students are completely INCOMPETENT for real-time work. They generally know many things, they are interesting in everything, they're walking encyclopedias and they're willing to read about everything - and they are incompetent to do the task that you gave them.
This is called a "wikipedia effect" among many employers. Many great students get a terrible habit of reading about stuff that is either less relevant for the sole purpose to cater to their teacher/professor or to get a better grade. Many of those students will make it a habit and carry on with this attitude into the workforce - this is why they should try to run away from actual work and be installed to be some manager in a large corporation or to run into the government offices. In working environments that are focused on true results of your productivity, this type of attitude is what your employer HATES.
What your employer will address as "wikipedia effect" is the attitude of a great willingness to learn stuff that your employer doesn't care for. I.e. you'll need to search the internet for the relevant information and you'll find it on a wikipedia article, you'll start reading it and then... you'll simply read 5 sentences and open a new link to find out about something else. Then you'll find yourself with a dozen of tabs opened, reading it for hours. Your employer doesn't care about it, only question that an employer cares is if the job is done or not. Though if you're speaking of form of "competence" (in a crowd that blabbers about anything and everything), you'll actually look very competent about everything. This is also the attitude of your school professor who will reward and promote such behavior. In terms of privately-owned small companies such as small software companies, your employer will NOT be glad to have a walking encyclopedia that under-performs (or simply fails over time), and they'll tell you that they have google search instead. Or they'll actually leave you a few months max to solve your problem or that you yourself realize that the job you do is simply not for you - so you'll quit it by yourself. It's a terrible thing in a psychology for other workers when your employer is firing other employers, which is why this option is preferred instead.
I think that procreation is the basic drive, while porn is just the visual aspect that uses this basic drive to induce pleasure. Telling that watching porn is the basic drive in people is just plain ignorant or even stupid.
If you watch the video, you will see that viewing porn is perceived by the brain as genetic opportunities. Yes, reproduction is the ultimate drive, but in order to accomplish that we also have a drive to have as many mates as possible. Porn serves this drive.
The fact is that 100% of men were naturally driven to look at porn. What more evidence could you possibly want? To find this level of saturation with anything is extremely unusual. It is about as definitively "normal" as one can possibly get.
What is stupid is ignoring the evidence right in front of you in lieu of some personal theory.
I think you're looking at it a bit wrong... I've noticed that men are MUCH pickier about women (especially their looks) and from talking to a few of my girlfriends, they expect 'porn star' quality sex even if the woman isn't comfortable with certain aspects of it.
I don't think it's because women are trying to control men's orgasm or anything ridiculous like that, it's just that more and more are choosing internet porn over a real, live woman because in porn you get airbrushed perfection, fake moaning and women who are willing to do basically anything. Why would you choose an actual woman who may have opinions or even preferences when you can use porn?
For example, my ex. He was really into porn and constantly compared my body and what I was doing with him in bed to the porn he'd seen. He thought of it as 'constructive criticism' but I really didn't see how telling me he thought my boobs were disgusting because they didn't stick straight up like *insert porn stars name here* when I was lying on my back.
So yeah, I do think younger men are being desensitized to actual flesh and blood women and it may be more difficult for them to be sexually aroused to the 'flaws' we all carry around when compared to surgically enhanced women who are basically doing whatever the guys tell them too. I'm sure it's difficult to give up that sense of control for them.
First off, men don't choose porn over "real live women", that only happens when a man can't get laid. The man in that case has no choice but to look at pornography in that case. This idea that men are turning down women for something on a screen is hilarious and untrue
Secondly you can't say porn puts pressure on women or unrealistic expectations on them and don't say the same thing for men. Women are big watchers of porn as well. The vast majority of men in real life don't have as big of a penis as male porn stars, can't last nearly as long, nor can't orgasm on command. the same way they can And we all know there tons of men who feel insecure in those areas.
When will these women learn that they aren't entitled to a man's body?
Maybe these women need to "woman up" and get in better shape, go to the gym, drop the rotten attitude, and learn be a better lover in the bedroom.
This post isn't directed at you JetJockey, I enjoy engaging in conversation with you. This is just how everyone responds when a man says he can't get a woman to have sex with him, so I'm throwing it back in everyone's face.
Nah, I saw through what you were trying to do in your first response.
I agree, women aren't entitled to a man's body and if a man wants to look at porn and ignore his wife, that's their problem to work out.
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Originally Posted by BradPiff
First off, men don't choose porn over "real live women", that only happens when a man can't get laid. The man in that case has no choice but to look at pornography in that case. This idea that men are turning down women for something on a screen is hilarious and untrue
Secondly you can't say porn puts pressure on women or unrealistic expectations on them and don't say the same thing for men. Women are big watchers of porn as well. The vast majority of men in real life don't have as big of a penis as male porn stars, can't last nearly as long, nor can't orgasm on command. the same way they can And we all know there tons of men who feel insecure in those areas.
That's weird, considering I've had close girlfriends tell me their husbands/boyfriends would turn them down and then they'd catch them looking at porn and masturbating soon afterwards. I also caught my ex boyfriend doing that more than once. I guess I was just imagining that.
I also agree about unrealistic expectations. Welcome to what women deal with constantly. It sucks, doesn't it?
Nah, I saw through what you were trying to do in your first response.
I agree, women aren't entitled to a man's body and if a man wants to look at porn and ignore his wife, that's their problem to work out.
That's weird, considering I've had close girlfriends tell me their husbands/boyfriends would turn them down and then they'd catch them looking at porn and masturbating soon afterwards. I also caught my ex boyfriend doing that more than once. I guess I was just imagining that.
I also agree about unrealistic expectations. Welcome to what women deal with constantly. It sucks, doesn't it?
maybe thats why half the threads on here are about HOW to approach a real woman, not on a screen- they seem so approachable when they are nude, moaning and smiling-not realistic in the real world
Those men only make up a very small percentage of guys and more then likely those men werent all that into those women in the first place. The vast majority of time men turn to porn out of desperation
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