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Old 06-02-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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Sometimes they lie just to see if they can get away with it. Some people lie for no logical reason.

I tell the truth about my age. I'm not ashamed of it. And I'm also fishing for compliments.
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:54 PM
 
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Would I go out with someone who lied about their age?

Yes, for sure, so long as their real age was not under 18!

(There are other lies I would not tolerate though)
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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Would I go out with someone who lied about their age?

Yes, for sure, so long as their real age was not under 18!

(There are other lies I would not tolerate though)
...What about less than 21? There are so many young women in my college that try to use us older people to get access to alcohol.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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You mentioned men lying about their age. But it's a false equivalence. A man can't conceal his height. But a woman can lie about her age and you can't tell just by looking at her whether she's being truthful.
I suppose you are right about that. Especially if a you claim to be 6 ft. tall but are only about 5'4".

Now that you mention it, women can and regularly do intentionality deceive in many ways. The buy and wear bras that give false impressions of their breasts. They try masking their real face with tons of makeup. They put weaves in their hair or wear wigs. The even have jeans out that have false butt pads in them.

But men are the only ones that get accused of not being honest?


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And just because lying is commonplace doesn't make it excusable. Dating is all about trust. You meet someone, you want to know if they'll be straight with you. She asked me if I was religious. Her faith is important to her and I'm sure she's looking for someone similar. Should I have lied and said I'm a spiritual person even though I'm not? Sorry, but I believe in being straight with people. For all I know, she lost interest in me the moment she found out I was an atheist. But that's better than misleading her. Suppose I didn't I discover her real age. We started dating, it got serious, and then one day she confesses. Or vice versa, I let her think I was spiritual, we got serious, slept together, and then I said, "oh by the way, I lied when I said I believe in God." I guess lying has become so common in the world of dating that some people are willing to excuse it.
This sounds like a personal difference in how much we value this falsehood she gave. I'm not going to tell you that you are wrong for crossing her out or holding this against her. That's your prerogative and this evidently is something important to you.

For me, it's not that important, this small falsehood on her part. And I don't think I'm wrong for that. That is my prerogative as well. While I'm cognitive that if someone will lie about something small they will lie about something big, I don't think men raising their height by a little, or women lowering their age some, are meant maliciously. And I'm aware of the social or cultural pressures both feel.

By the way, I'm more likely to tell a woman I'm shorter than I am than tell her I'm taller than I am. If I was a billionaire I would probably project myself as on public assistance too. Maybe. Online I might. I would still drive the expensive car, and wear the expensive watch, out on the streets. But if caught in painters clothing I would tell a woman I was a house painter.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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...What about less than 21? There are so many young women in my college that try to use us older people to get access to alcohol.
They probably just ask you to buy it, rather than trying to date you.
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Old 06-02-2013, 01:56 PM
 
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Spare me the false outrage. It's public information. It's not like I went snooping through her trash. People google each other all the time. It's not an invasion of privacy. And as I already explained, I had sufficient reason to doubt her honesty given her appearance and her earlier statements about how long she'd been married and divorced. Let me ask you this? Let's say the situation was reversed and I lied to her. If she suspected I was lying and decided to look me up on Google, which you still would be upset? I wouldn't. I wouldn't blame her one bit. But it seems like there's a double standard at work. A woman can look up information about a man, but if a man does it, he'll be vilified. Give me a break.
No, you didn't snoop through her trash. You were just opportunistic.

I think it would be just as shabby for her to do it to you.

Whether someone is lying has nothing to do with it. The ends don't justify the means. It's the premise of a neighbor looking up another neighbor after mistakenly being delivered the wrong mail that's distasteful. That's nosy.

But it's even worse when you said yourself you weren't interested in her. So if you weren't interested in her, why the interest in her private information? If I'm not interested in someone or sense something is off about him, I don't bother with him at all.
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:00 PM
 
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They probably just ask you to buy it, rather than trying to date you.
Some youngsters have asked me to buy it, others expected it when they asked me to go hang out with them.
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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Some youngsters have asked me to buy it, others expected it when they asked me to go hang out with them.
Well, they'd grow fond of you still for other reasons if they like you.
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Old 06-02-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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He's a stalker and she's a lier. It ain't gonna work. Lol

Pretty much!

I see no reason to lie to people. At this point, it's to my advantage to say, "I'm 46." Right off the bat if someone knows he wants kids, he can go somewhere else.
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Old 06-02-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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He's a stalker and she's a lier. It ain't gonna work. Lol
Look up the definition of stalker. I love how casually some people assign that term.

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Normally it is rude to google someone before or during their first date. Usually you wait intil your second or third date to "google" someone. Oh wait, you mean search someone on the internet... Well, that is simply doing your homework.
Explain that to Raena77. Apparently she doesn't know the difference between stalking and doing your homework.

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Women do this all time I believe
Exactly. In fact, one of the questions asked on OKCupid is "do you Google someone before going out with them?" The majority of women answered yes. I guess Raena77 would consider those women guilty of stalking.

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No one should be googling anyone. People didn't do stuff like that in 1999
That's because we didn't have Google yet.

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This sounds like a personal difference in how much we value this falsehood she gave. I'm not going to tell you that you are wrong for crossing her out or holding this against her. That's your prerogative and this evidently is something important to you.

For me, it's not that important, this small falsehood on her part. And I don't think I'm wrong for that. That is my prerogative as well. While I'm cognitive that if someone will lie about something small they will lie about something big, I don't think men raising their height by a little, or women lowering their age some, are meant maliciously. And I'm aware of the social or cultural pressures both feel.
I don't consider this to be a small falsehood. If she was 40, but said she was 39, that wouldn't bother me. People tell little white lies all the time. But there's a big difference between "we're about the same age" and "I'm a decade older than you."

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No, you didn't snoop through her trash. You were just opportunistic.

I think it would be just as shabby for her to do it to you.

Whether someone is lying has nothing to do with it. The ends don't justify the means. It's the premise of a neighbor looking up another neighbor after mistakenly being delivered the wrong mail that's distasteful. That's nosy.

But it's even worse when you said yourself you weren't interested in her. So if you weren't interested in her, why the interest in her private information? If I'm not interested in someone or sense something is off about him, I don't bother with him at all.
Go back and read my previous post. I said I was interested, but that was BEFORE I discovered that she had lied. And BTW, there's nothing nosy about inquiring about someone you're interested in. People generally try to gather more information about people they have an interest in. Suppose I hadn't looked her up on Google, but instead just casually asked some other neighbors about her. "Hey there. Do you know the woman who lives across from you? Do you know if she has a boyfriend?" Is that being nosy? Of course not. These are questions people asked long before we ever had the Internet. All that's changed is that public information about you is now more readily available. Suppose she decided to look me up cause she was interested in me. Is she being nosy? No. Why? She's simply doing her homework on me.
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