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yes and it is those experiences (when I was very young of course) that shaped my view of some men.
I think that a grown man (young, middle aged, old and everywhere in between) should be able to look at a young lady or a grown woman with an appreciation for their youth, their vitality, and their beauty without leering at them. From a woman's point of view it does not feel good and it was certainly very unappreciated and sometimes quite humiliating. I remember as a young lady (puberty to teenager on up) and having men look at me and that is how and when I came to learn what the intentions (more likely their fantasies or dreams) of some men were all about.
It takes away from a woman's self esteem and sense of worth and as they get older it may also color a woman's sense of self esteem and sense of worth in that they may become jaded in the belief that their only value is in their looks and their body and the pleasure it can provide to a man.
Yes, those recollections were brought back to me by this thread.
I think this happens more frequently and with greater success in the over-40 age group where people seem to be more tolerant of age differences. Doesn't matter who approaches who.
older women arent immune to this- maybe its different- ive had many older ladies thru the years,,,be quite suggestive,,,even grab my arms-butt,,whisper in my ear--- i laughed most of them off,,,and thought,,if this older lady gets a cheap thrill,,from putting her arm around me,,, then so what...but i do think its different,,,at no time did i feel threatened..
I don't know if I should feel good for not attracting "creep-o" older men or bad & not attractive enough to get that kind of attention at all. Seriously, you guys got HARASSED by older men, like on a regular basis?
It's possible you don't recognise what they are doing.
Older guys, IME, usually start with what appears to be normal friendliness. Then they take returned normal, generic friendliness as interest on your part.
This is also what they mean when they say that younger women are always coming on to THEM -- they mean that, for example, waitresses smile and tell them to have a good day. Or that women their daughters' age talk to them in a sociable way. (What's really going on, of course, is that these younger women feel sure such an old dude could never misinterpret and think they are attracted to him, so they think it's ok to put down the burden of having to be distant and unfriendly all the time. And the waitresses, they are just doing their job.)
Haven't read the thread, but yes... I primarily get men 10-20 years older then me (and some even older..) flirting/hitting on me. It has actually been this way even when I was in my 20's. There was a particularly creepy set of men over 50 who would be really inappropriate when I was very young and it was really disgusting.... It's enough to turn you off men, as you start to think men only deteriorate with age.
But now, most of the time it is pretty benign.... just staring and a comment. The older they are, the more they say, and sometimes the more disinhibited they become. Throw in a little age related early dementia.... what a great combo.....
Often when I am taking my father out for appointments, dinner etc... people will presume he is my partner. At first I laughed it off, assuming they were just trying to "flatter" my elderly father. Now I realize they are not, and I go back and forth between feeling insulted and feeling sad.... It has actually been problematic, as I have been eager to expand my father's social circle of male friends, but it is causing many problems as I learn how many dirty old men are out there.
It definitely only gets easier for men as they get older. They feel like they have the entire age spectrum of women open to them, and maybe they do. But honestly, in what world does a 70 year man think they should be asking out a 40 year old woman?!? Unfortunately, this one....
older women arent immune to this- maybe its different- ive had many older ladies thru the years,,,be quite suggestive,,,even grab my arms-butt,,whisper in my ear--- i laughed most of them off,,,and thought,,if this older lady gets a cheap thrill,,from putting her arm around me,,, then so what...but i do think its different,,,at no time did i feel threatened..
It happens to men too, at least sometimes. I've been pounced by cougars, and by cubs. I try to be nice, but I'm almost never interested. It's not easy being catnip. I have made a few good friends this way, though.
Haven't read the thread, but yes... I primarily get men 10-20 years older then me (and some even older..) flirting/hitting on me. It has actually been this way even when I was in my 20's. There was a particularly creepy set of men over 50 who would be really inappropriate when I was very young and it was really disgusting.... It's enough to turn you off men, as you start to think men only deteriorate with age.
But now, most of the time it is pretty benign.... just staring and a comment. The older they are, the more they say, and sometimes the more disinhibited they become. Throw in a little age related early dementia.... what a great combo.....
Often when I am taking my father out for appointments, dinner etc... people will presume he is my partner. At first I laughed it off, assuming they were just trying to "flatter" my elderly father. Now I realize they are not, and I go back and forth between feeling insulted and feeling sad.... It has actually been problematic, as I have been eager to expand my father's social circle of male friends, but it is causing many problems as I learn how many dirty old men are out there.
It definitely only gets easier for men as they get older. They feel like they have the entire age spectrum of women open to them, and maybe they do. But honestly, in what world does a 70 year man think they should be asking out a 40 year old woman?!? Unfortunately, this one....
Ugh, this is why I HATED online and would rather die a spinster instead of ever trying online again if I find myself single again. I am 42, decent shape and decent looks but the amount of 60+ men who asked me out versus men say 35-50 was overwhelmingly. There were a lot of men in my age range online, I contacted a few but most never responded back. Yet the amount of these creepy perverted older men who contacted me was ridiculous and they were the most annoying because they wouldn't take no for an answer. What am I going to have in common with a 70 year old? The men in my age range seemed to all want 18-35 and the men "willing" to date women my age were all over 55 it seems. When I would tell them they were too old they would claim "age is just a number" or that all their ex girlfriends were even younger than me but they'll give me a chance. Gee, thanks a lot old geezer.
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