How many dates do you wait for the hanky panky (cheaters, attractive)
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You have absolutely no idea what will happen 10 years down the road or even 10 days down the road.
Have to agree. Some use the argument "Those who wait are the same ones that don't like sex then they have a starved partner"
But there's no telling what the future holds. Some probably had partners that banged like a porn star or a rabbit, then years later their drive diminishes. So there's no telling what will happen to someone's drive as they get older, or something happens. Just because it was like that at the start / in the honeymoon phase doesn't mean that's how it's going to stay.
One woman complained online about her sex life. At the beginning, she and her boyfriend were all over one another. By the end of their relationship, she literally had to beg him for sex, even saying he didn't have to move and could just lay there and she'd do everything-and that he wouldn't have to put his phone down.
One girl I know wanted to wait, which she did. Still a virgin in her 20s. Didn't sleep with her current guy for a while, then when they had sex they had it tons because she was making up for all the lost time lol .
Uh, I would like to at least get to know you before you shove your thing in me. Rather important to me that we connect really well first. I do not get the by date X, you must do this or that or GTFO. If you need it that bad, then go pay for it. Geez. If I'm seeking a "relationship", I'm looking forward to getting to know you. If it's a random hookup, then that is what it is.
I don't shove...more like gentle prodding...
And we all pay for it, its called dating...
Its not a rule, I didn't hand my 1rst date an itinerary listing my 3rd date expectations LOL...mostly it was just an indicator...that by the third date if it wasn't happening than it WASNT happening...I was in friend zone...ive read that women decide within 5 minutes of meeting a dude whether or not shes having sex with him (generally speaking of course)...by the 3rd date, shes typically had 6 hours extra time to decide the specifics LOL and any extra waiting is just games on her part...OR...she decided he aint getting none but she likes the free steaks, drinks, activities etc
Sadly, there are some singles out there, trying to turn the whole singles scene into a meat market. That's not going to happen. Just as some men refused to be rushed for a monogamous commitment, some women don't want to have sex without a monagamous commitment...or even marriage. Not everyone is into the hookup. Some singles need to get a grip and accept the fact that some women are either abstinent or want to proceed with intimacy slowly. A woman is not a dastardly villain because she feels this way. In an earlier day, she used to get respect for being respectable...now just ridicule. The selfishness and predatory irresponsible behavior/attitudes has reached out of control proportions.
I totally agree...I do not expect any woman to have sex until she is ready...totally sincere here
lucky for me when I was single there were PLENTY of women wanting and willing to have sex at the drop of a hat...they weren't diseased, or nasty, or less attractive...their heads were in a different place as far as ex was concerned...so while I patiently waited for the one girl to proceed slowly, I had plenty of quick proceeders on the side so I never had to go without sex...
women who want to wait are not villains, but women who DONT want to wait aren't all sluts either...there are tons of good "marrying types" who not only LOVE sex, but don't see it as a tool or a gift to bestow on some lucky schmo
so don't feel like you HAVE to do anything...you don't...no one should ever be forced into sex until they are ready...and there are PLENTY of women ready and able out there so take your time!!!
Last edited by lucky2balive; 03-07-2015 at 09:10 AM..
Same here. I can't help but wonder if these guys who want it before or right after the third date are the same men who then dump a woman who they got pregnant. Sex often means babies even with birth control.
Im the op
I NEVER EVER EVER had an unwanted pregnancy
if I had I would have NEVER EVER abandoned the girl...I am pro choice politically but personally I would NOT have been for abortion either...
that's a horrible generalization...just because I was a horny pig doesn't mean I was a scum of the earth piece of crap...if I father a child, I will be a father PERIOD!! And I aint nothing special, lots of men feel this way
I never did..i have basic intelligence and know how to use a condom, pull out, whatever
Good luck with that thinking and come out of the 50's.
im not the one in the 50's...im most definitely in late 60's
This idea that a man is sleeping with someone else is funny. My boyfriend wants to wait for sex and it's not because he's getting it somewhere else. In fact he considers it something special.
That's great and I sincerely hope he is sincere...cuz most men who would say this are telling their woman something they want to hear, while they get sex somewhere else...that is the nature of the beast...if I heard a male friend say this to a woman, I would laugh hysterically and think he was joking, drunk, or trying to make me laugh
That's great and I sincerely hope he is sincere...cuz most men who would say this are telling their woman something they want to hear, while they get sex somewhere else...that is the nature of the beast...if I heard a male friend say this to a woman, I would laugh hysterically and think he was joking, drunk, or trying to make me laugh
I don't really believe that most men are like this. I think that the men that are like this probably hang around other men who do the same thing - so they think that most men do this. Same for women.
Ryan Gosling. And they had sex before marriage in that movie, have you even seen it?
no but ive slept through it about 40 times, so I did see various parts when I awoke to pee or get a beer or whatever...
Its part of the trifecta of worst chick flix EVER
notebook
shakespear in love
divine secrets of the ya ya sisterhood
Id rather watch steel magnolias 24 hours straight than watch a 3 minute trailer of any of the three horror films mentioned above...ugh
Desire for sex is biologically encoded in human beings though. So, I mean, they're going to get it from somewhere. Would you be comfortable with all that while you're potentially taking years just to be their friends before any benefits? And with that, you're also at risk of losing them to someone else.
I don't think relationships have to be built on sex. But it can be an important part of any relationship, whether it's the beginning, middle, or end.
brilliant
couldn't have said it better myself
its not about justifying it or whats right or wrong...men are men...sexual desire is a basic instinct...if people want to delude themselves that their partners DONT want sex, or will wait crazy amounts of time for it, then don't be surprised when they cheat or move on...I am a pig but I am not a cheater, not a good liar...I would just move on...and I have...
I don't really believe that most men are like this. I think that the men that are like this probably hang around other men who do the same thing - so they think that most men do this. Same for women.
good point...
I am 46, middle class...as are most of my friends...we all work, have wives and kids, go camping together, barbq's, birthdays, vacations...girls do book clubs and crafting, guys go to microbrews or sport events...whatever...we all go to church, I volunteer at my church
Ive talked in length with JUST the guys, and as couples, about this stuff...usually at a campfire over many drinks LOL...and I think the ordinary average guy thinks this way...maybe guys in the bible belt or guys who are afraid of sex or have low libidos might argue...
that's not to say most men lie and cheat...many would just dump the prude, or NOT commit and tell them they are seeing others...that is what I did...I NEVER committed to a girl (agreed to be monogamous, or be "boyfriend and girlfriend") if we weren't sleeping together...just because SHE wanted to be celibate didn't mean I did...but I never lied or deceived or cheated...
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