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Old 02-09-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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Well, as the lynch mob continues to gather steam, let me temper this a bit.

What kind of swastika is this? Because there is the swastika that's a symbol of the Nazi party and there's the swastika that is common symbology among Buddhists. And also in native Americans.
It's already been disclosed that this is not a symbol of anything else but the Nazi party.

 
Old 02-09-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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America has always been a country of forgiveness, second chances and acceptance.
Yup. And forgiveness and second chances usually come on the heels of some sort of true atonement and sincere apology.

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That said, reading this post, seems a swastika is THE MOST OBSCENE symbol on the planet and those that possess such a symbol should be done away with...kinda like the Nazi's did back then.
You are honestly comparing not wanting to date someone who has espoused a particular ideology with genocide?

I'd use the word "hyperbole" here, but that really doesn't even come close...

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I'd ask the girl, and find out her explanation. I have a butterfly tattoo, in some cultures I'd be persecuted too, but before I am, I'd expect the opportunity to explain myself, if need be, before being cast aside.
You can expect all you want.

Whether you get it is another story entirely.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 02:05 PM
 
Location: SoCal again
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Luckily, the US has never done anything bad. Ever.


No Japanese concentration camps during WWII. No killing of Native Americans and infecting them with deadly diseases.


60 million Africans dead at the hands of WHITE US CHRISTIANS. 2.4 million Africans died during the transport to the US.
The estimate of the number killed during the transatlantic slave trade varies anywhere between 6-150 million.


But yeah, the US can point fingers.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 02:11 PM
 
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Luckily, the US has never done anything bad. Ever.


No Japanese concentration camps during WWII. No killing of Native Americans and infecting them with deadly diseases. 60 million Africans dead at the hands of WHITE US CHRISTIANS.
2.4 million Africans died during the transport to the US.


The estimate of the number killed during the transatlantic slave trade varies anywhere between 6-150 million.


But yeah, the US can point fingers.
How did this become a "US thing"?
 
Old 02-09-2017, 02:15 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Luckily, the US has never done anything bad. Ever.


No Japanese concentration camps during WWII. No killing of Native Americans and infecting them with deadly diseases.


60 million Africans dead at the hands of WHITE US CHRISTIANS. 2.4 million Africans died during the transport to the US.
The estimate of the number killed during the transatlantic slave trade varies anywhere between 6-150 million.


But yeah, the US can point fingers.
It's really more of an issue with the Nazi party. I don't know how many average Germans back then knew of the horrors of what was happening as most of the camps were in remote areas, not making excuses for Germany, but jus sayin, who knows at the end of the day what the average guy on the street knew and even then, it might have been hard to do anything once the Nazi party had the full grasp of all of Germany's resources.

It's about glamourizing any kind of symbol that represents evil and horrible things. That is the core of what is happening in the OP, there were groups throughout history that have committed atrocities, humans can be ugly as hell.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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It's really more of an issue with the Nazi party. I don't know how many average Germans back then knew of the horrors of what was happening as most of the camps were in remote areas, not making excuses for Germany, but jus sayin, who knows at the end of the day what the average guy on the street knew and even then, it might have been hard to do anything once the Nazi party had the full grasp of all of Germany's resources.
Every country has its history, good AND bad.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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Luckily, the US has never done anything bad. Ever.


No Japanese concentration camps during WWII. No killing of Native Americans and infecting them with deadly diseases.


60 million Africans dead at the hands of WHITE US CHRISTIANS. 2.4 million Africans died during the transport to the US.
The estimate of the number killed during the transatlantic slave trade varies anywhere between 6-150 million.


But yeah, the US can point fingers.
Aah, the old Tu Quoque fallacy.

Americans are guilty of something so we cannot possibly find the Holocaust abhorrent.

Yes, we can point fingers.

I'm black, honey. Do not preach to me about slavery. If the woman had a Klansman tramp stamp and asked the OP if he ever dated a black woman, my reaction would be the same.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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Every country has its history, good AND bad.
Yup. And the moment we describe the bad stuff as "not so bad", or "understandable", is the moment that we, as a society, start down the slippery, scary slope toward history repeating itself.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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It's already been disclosed that this is not a symbol of anything else but the Nazi party.
Maybe 50 times, but don't expect people who aren't offended by the suggestion that you should give a person with a swastika tattoo, asking if you've ever dated a jew, the benefit of the doubt to do the logical thing and read first.
 
Old 02-09-2017, 02:22 PM
 
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Yup. And the moment we describe the bad stuff as "not so bad", or "understandable", is the moment that we, as a society, start down the slippery, scary slope toward history repeating itself.
Gee, sounds a lot like what is going on these days in the US and around the world.
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