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Old 02-19-2011, 08:18 PM
 
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Who determines what is considered to be a "valid reason"?




If someone is about to kill you or a family member that would be a valid reason. Yet such an action should never be taken lightly. It would have to be an extream reason.
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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That verse could be more appropriately translated as "Thou shalt not kill without cause.", ie: murder.
Murder is not "killing without cause" Murder is defined as 'premeditated' killing. You knew what you were going to do and you did it...that's murder.

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Obviously, God did not just go around killing people willy-nilly and had a purpose for it, so He's not a murderer.
So if you found out that your spouse was having an affair, you flipped your lid and killed your spouse, you would not be guilty of murder?? You would have had a purpose for killing your spouse (infidelity)would you not...so why would you not be guilty of murder?
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Old 02-20-2011, 08:52 AM
 
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Murder is not "killing without cause" Murder is defined as 'premeditated' killing. You knew what you were going to do and you did it...that's murder.

So if you found out that your spouse was having an affair, you flipped your lid and killed your spouse, you would not be guilty of murder?? You would have had a purpose for killing your spouse (infidelity)would you not...so why would you not be guilty of murder?



Killing ones spouse for having an affair is not a valid purpose. It may be the reason why some would do something like that. Yet it is not valid.
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:15 AM
 
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Killing ones spouse for having an affair is not a valid purpose. It may be the reason why some would do something like that. Yet it is not valid.
Well according to "God", adultery is a valid reason to be killed.

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."
Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."
Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Killing ones spouse for having an affair is not a valid purpose. It may be the reason why some would do something like that. Yet it is not valid.
If there was a God, then he kills more than five million kids per year by withholding his help....Yet he helped you find a job? Stalin, Hitler, nor even Pol Pot are not in the same class as your god when it comes to killing and cruelty...
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Killing ones spouse for having an affair is not a valid purpose. It may be the reason why some would do something like that. Yet it is not valid.
It is in Texas. Especially if you catch them in flagrante delicto.
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:28 PM
 
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Well according to "God", adultery is a valid reason to be killed.

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."
Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."
Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."


And that is the way it was under the law. Yet today we live in the age of grace. When men brought the woman caught in adultery to Jesus. Jesus told those men. He who is without sin toss the first stone. Would you of tossed the first stone?
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:34 PM
 
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If there was a God, then he kills more than five million kids per year by withholding his help....Yet he helped you find a job? Stalin, Hitler, nor even Pol Pot are not in the same class as your god when it comes to killing and cruelty...
God gives life and takes life, and He has the right to do that. And all those children that die are still living with God today. I would suggest until you create your first universe. You might want to hold off judgement of God.

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Old 02-20-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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God gives life and takes life, and He has the right to do that. And all those children that die are still living with God today. I would sugggest until you create your first universe. You might want to hold off judgement of God.

Hey, that's the one from Arthur C. Clarke's classic, "the Star". God was speculated to destroy the whole civilization of another 'intelligence' accomplished planet to create the gift of the Maji for the three wise men.

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Old 02-20-2011, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Detroit/South Korea
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And that is the way it was under the law. Yet today we live in the age of grace. When men brought the woman caught in adultery to Jesus. Jesus told those men. He who is without sin toss the first stone. Would you of tossed the first stone?
Ah I knew the "Age of Grace" excuse would be showing up soon.
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