Jesus was FAR different than most people think! (Vatican, Jesus Christ, witness)
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Then you should restrict your posting to the Christianity forum, or better yet, stay off discussion forums altogether. There is no point in flinging your opinions about on a discussion forum, like little bits of monkey poo, if you are not interested in actually discussing them.
If you do believe in an omnipotent god, asking him to change my mind is likely to be far more effective than flailing about with unsupported opinions and refusing to actually examine your own assertions. As an added benefit, it is certainly less annoying to me...
-NoCapo
As you do the same with your unsupported views on No God. Your belief system comes from hypotheticals and theory, these are not facts regarding origins of this planet. We as creationist believe and have seen many facts and evidence. With an Atheist regarding debate and or discussion it will be semantics, muddling along with ignoring any post with history or evidence then they twist and distort there reasonings which are absurd, they act as if nothing was ever presented to them.
I suppose it is pointless to ask whether you ever read any of my posts on genesis, the flood, exodus, the Hyksos, 'prophecies' of Babylon, Tyre, Daniel, the Gospels, Acts and Paul.
Evidence about the historic Jesus is not in the Bible. He was a real person, rabbie, prophet, that walked the earth. if your going to de-bunk this sort of history, which includes Jesus. his followers, church leaders, scholars, etc. etc. along with anything relating to biblical history, then you might as well rebuke all of history.
The Saints from 2000 years ago along with our modern day Saints are real human beings, blessed with special graces, etc. Yes we have miracles and medical science can and wont ever explain these things, just like they only can hypothosize on the Earths origins.
This is a fact.
I dont want to debate with atheists, instead I should Pray to God regarding your soul. The Christian Man/God called Jesus. At the end of times we all shall see.
Sarah
Did you know the city of Nazareth didn't exist during Jesus alleged time on earth? It was destroyed a few hundred years before, and wasn't repopulated until a few hundred years after.
And there is no cliff by the town for the town's folk to threaten to throw him off.
And it doesn't actually sit on the side of a mountain, like it claims in the bible, but instead in a valley.
I suppose it is pointless to ask whether you ever read any of my posts on genesis, the flood, exodus, the Hyksos, 'prophecies' of Babylon, Tyre, Daniel, the Gospels, Acts and Paul.
Read Matthew Mark, Luke John and Revelations, then we can talk.
Did you know the city of Nazareth didn't exist during Jesus alleged time on earth? It was destroyed a few hundred years before, and wasn't repopulated until a few hundred years after.
And there is no cliff by the town for the town's folk to threaten to throw him off.
And it doesn't actually sit on the side of a mountain, like it claims in the bible, but instead in a valley.
Odd.
Really, well I dont know what your reading, but Jesus was born in Nazareth whichNazarethHebrew transcription(s) • Hebrewנָצְרַת (Natz'rat or Na'tzeret; Naṣ'rath in Biblical Hebrew) •
Did you know the city of Nazareth didn't exist during Jesus alleged time on earth? It was destroyed a few hundred years before, and wasn't repopulated until a few hundred years after.
And there is no cliff by the town for the town's folk to threaten to throw him off.
And it doesn't actually sit on the side of a mountain, like it claims in the bible, but instead in a valley.
Odd.
Please go looks this up before you make such claims..
Evidence about the historic Jesus is not in the Bible.
That depends what you consider as 'evidence'. If you consider the 2000 year old ramblings of desert sunstroke victims - edited and altered over time by people with an agenda for power and control - as 'evidence' then you could say there was evidence, though it is neither objective nor verifiable.
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He was a real person, rabbie, prophet, that walked the earth.
Only according to your Bible and a splatter of other religious works
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if your going to de-bunk this sort of history, which includes Jesus. his followers, church leaders, scholars, etc. etc. along with anything relating to biblical history, then you might as well rebuke all of history.
History that is verifiable can't be rebuked. If your Jesus stories contained any verifiable evidence then they would be very difficult to rebuke it, they don't and therefore are very easy to rebuke.
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The Saints from 2000 years ago along with our modern day Saints are real human beings, blessed with special graces, etc.
They are believers...just like you!
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Yes we have miracles....
...and these 'miracles' would be - what exactly.
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This is a fact.
It's not 'fact', it's nothing more than your BELIEFS.
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I dont want to debate with atheists....,
Stay over in the 'Christianity' forum then.
...but if you do stay, PLEASE stop bolding your text. It's not necessary and it doesn't make what you are saying any more believable. All it does is make extra work in editing to answer you.
As you do the same with your unsupported views on No God. Your belief system comes from hypotheticals and theory, these are not facts regarding origins of this planet. We as creationist believe and have seen many facts and evidence. With an Atheist regarding debate and or discussion it will be semantics, muddling along with ignoring any post with history or evidence then they twist and distort there reasonings which are absurd, they act as if nothing was ever presented to them.
Sarah
But Sarah, I am more than willing to discuss my viewpoints and your viewpoints, along with evidence for and against each. I try very hard to be intellectually honest in my evaluation of a given position, be it my own or someone else's. You don't appear to be interested in this kind of analysis, which is fine, I guess. I just don't understand why you are still here.
I promise you I will not ignore any evidence presented to me. I may evaluate it and find evidence that renders it unreliable, but this is not the same thing as simply ignoring or dismissing it. I am not trying to shake your faith, but I do think that everyone, believers and non-believers alike would do well to understand what is supported by evidence, and what is strictly belief. As I said to Mickiel, I don't understand why believers appear to be ashamed to say that they believe something without sufficient evidence. that is the very definition of faith. Why not embrace it and move on?
Read Matthew Mark, Luke John and Revelations, then we can talk.
Sarah
I have read them better than you I wager. Revelations, you can keep. Go for it, Capo, I have a feeling that this one would be like talking to a brick wall with a loudspeaker in it.
Really, well I dont know what your reading, but Jesus was born in Nazareth
Matthew 2:2 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king
I thought you know all about the Bible. Hmmm.
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