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Vizio, tell the complete truth. Why were they really fined? It was not just because they refuse the cake, you know that, you've been told that, yet you continually hearken back to that.
So why were they really fined?
They were fined because they opened their mouths. They were slapped down for daring to speak out.
Sooo... you think I'm the bigot because I think I deserve to be treated equally in public service? The old, "you should tolerate my intolerance of you" reasoning.
The baker bakes a cake, delivers the cake, and gets paid. They do not attend the wedding or the reception. They do not walk anyone down the aisle. They do not officiate. They do not toast the couple. They do not DJ.
Bake, deliver, leave. That is all.
By making a cake and delivering it, the baker is facilitating it. No different than the guy that photographs it.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why you'd want to force your views on someone else. Is there a shortage of bakers? Of course not--we all know the reason. We know that the only reason this was an issue was so that a bigoted gay couple could make an example of someone.
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And none of that would have happened if the couple had simply respected someone's religious beliefs, ya know, like people used to do. Do we even know for sure their addresses got posted? The only source I've seen reporting it was an extremely liberal website reporting the story heavily sympathizing with the gay couple. Only a quick blurb about Sweet Cakes getting death threats even launched at their children. Yea your side is realllly tolerable.
Jeff.
Pay attention, I've ask this of you before.
If there were death threats, were the police informed. If not why not.
If that Dred Scott had "just followed the laws of his State", none of those problems would have happened.
And I got my information from the record of the "great" Supreme Court that affirmed it!!
It has been explained before...many times..."the law" is NOT a good arbiter! Argue the concept...not the law relative to it. Laws mean squat! Otherwise Afghan men beating their wives half to death because they "disrespected" them, is totally cool....after all, it's "the law" there!
Especially in this case, because there is no law. Laws must be voted on and passed by the people. What we have here, like in most states where "gay" marriage is "legal", is a court ruling by a handful of misguided souls who ought never to be allowed anywhere near public policy making.
Jeffy only asked that because he, like Viz, parrots back what other people post. It's a "thing" with the fans of the aptly-named Slick. It allows them to think they've had a gotcha moment.
When I saw this thread title, I was certain that it was in jest or tongue-in-cheek. Because in a sane world, like the world I lived my earlier years in, it most certainly would be.
But no. Another sad reminder that everything is inside out and upside down now.
Yeah, your world is just getting smaller everyday...🌎
The government is overstepping its boundaries. They need to keep out of this...before the system we have is used against them. And the fallout affects everyone.
The Civil War was a great and noble cause...and many gave their lives or suffered terrible harm for that cause. I don't think the current crop of citizens in this country has that kinda guts and fortitude.
The religious outnumber the nonreligious in this country 4 to 1. So, guess how that battle (legal conflict or otherwise) will turn out in the end if both sides decide to go all out to "win"?
Why do you think that all voters who self-identify as religious agree with you?
Why do you think that all voters who self-identify as religious would be willing to carry out your threats?
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The old, "you should tolerate my intolerance of you" reasoning.
