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You really do like throwing the word 'moral' around, don't you? I won't repost the video, but let's take a look at some of the Bible's 'moral standards':
Judges 21:10-24 (NLT):
The men were told to hide and sexually assault a group of women, and then ask their family to 'understand' -- because there weren't enough women to go around after they slaughtered an entire town.
Or how about Numbers 31:7-18 NLT?
That's right -- Moses himself told the soldiers that had razed an entire village that they hadn't killed enough people, ordered that they kill the remaing male children and sexually-active women -- and gave them the virgin prisoners as a reward.
And, of course, Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT:
I think this one pretty much speaks for itself. And now I'm going to go and quietly be sick in the corner.
Jeff, you have no standing whatsoever to talk about 'moral standards', or who 'would be singing the same tune'. Not when you're willfully ignoring the moral failings of your own religion's most prominent document.
Such arguments only demonstrate a failed understanding of context. The Bible reports some pretty ugly things because guess what, man was SINFUL back then and did ugly immoral things. That reality only tells me that the Bible is true, and not whitewashed history.
Why on earth would that be necessary??? What possible difference would it make to providing equal civil rights under the law???
So then you wouldn't have any problem if the government decided to legalize marriage between humans and animals right? Who cares if it is not natural? And spare me the "consent" argument. It doesn't matter why you find that orientation to be immoral just like you say it doesn't matter that I find homosexuality to be immoral. What matters is a double standard if you protest it.
The idea is rather silly. You cannot prove you are not homosexual, any more than you can prove you are hetero. You would need more proof than your word.
Sure I can. The design of the male body vs female body pretty clearly shows that they were designed to go together sexually.
So then you wouldn't have any problem if the government decided to legalize marriage between humans and animals right? Who cares if it is not natural? And spare me the "consent" argument. It doesn't matter why you find that orientation to be immoral just like you say it doesn't matter that I find homosexuality to be immoral. What matters is a double standard if you protest it.
Consent is important. It is one constant that can be applied to all relationships. A lack of consent implies coercion or deceipt, which is simply wring by anybody's standard.
Or are you saying that you don't support consent? Are you actually in favor of rape?
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Sure I can. The design of the male body vs female body pretty clearly shows that they were designed to go together sexually.
There are many sexual acts other than penis:vagina. For the record, bodies weren't designed, they evolved. Nice try though.
Can you explain how her marital history has any relevance to whether or not she believes marriage is to be male/female only?
If she wants to make her religious beliefs a public spectacle, don't blame others for digging a bit below the story she's trying to tell and see if it holds up. So far things look a bit shaky for her claims.
So then you wouldn't have any problem if the government decided to legalize marriage between humans and animals right? Who cares if it is not natural? And spare me the "consent" argument.
Marriage is a contract. Contracts need signatories. The end.
Such arguments only demonstrate a failed understanding of context. The Bible reports some pretty ugly things because guess what, man was SINFUL back then and did ugly immoral things. That reality only tells me that the Bible is true, and not whitewashed history.
The Bible reports God doing some pretty ugly and immoral things; Deuteronomy 22:28-29 is God talking.
So then you wouldn't have any problem if the government decided to legalize marriage between humans and animals right? Who cares if it is not natural? And spare me the "consent" argument. It doesn't matter why you find that orientation to be immoral just like you say it doesn't matter that I find homosexuality to be immoral. What matters is a double standard if you protest it.
For animals to legally marry, they would have to be recognized as individuals rather than as property. They would also get to vote, own property, avail themselves of free public education, and would need to file income tax returns. Do you consider this scenario likely?
Sure I can. The design of the male body vs female body pretty clearly shows that they were designed to go together sexually.
That is not proof you are hetero. That simply means you have a penis. The fact your partner may or may not have a vagina is no proof you are hetero either.
For animals to legally marry, they would have to be recognized as individuals rather than as property. They would also get to vote, own property, avail themselves of free public education, and would need to file income tax returns. Do you consider this scenario likely?
You just don't get the fact that allowing two adult males to marry means consent is not longer required. Can you not see the logic in that?
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