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I always thought the whole "Jesus" thing was to get butts in the seats and money in the collection plate. Promoting the idea that no matter what you do, all you have to do is believe that Jesus is God (which isn't true) and you're in for eternity. As the world evolved, people became more sinful, so they had to tweak the rules and we are seeing that again in a big way, the Christian churches accepting and embracing sinful acts to get butts in the seats and money in the collection plates.
That is my summary from my observance for more than 50 years, Christianity, a way to get butts in the seats and money in the collection plates by expanding their embracing the sinful and saying those sins are OK.
Harry Potter was written as fiction. The New Testament was written as fact.
Based on what supporting evidence? Are we to believe that what was spoken 50-100 years earlier was WRITTEN exactly as it was said?
How can I write a book and quote someone like Woodrow Wilson who is DEAD? When the NT was fabricated, there were not many 1st hand sources still alive.
Just curious what everyone thinks Jesus wants us to do and be. This is NOT a question of how you think the visible church is acting today, but I want to know what you believe Jesus commanded the church to be and do.
Are we to just love everyone?
Are we to preach hate?
ARe we to preach something else?
Vizio Your Savior did not have any commands for any church, he never wanted a church or a religion in his name. You see your Savior was nothing but a Jewish teacher, a Rabbi and he brought what he thought were the teachings of his God and Creator to the people that were being neglected by his own religion, the Jews. His teachings were mostly for those of the poor and down and out, the simple people, he was a teacher of the common man. His teachings were completely misconstrued by those who conspired to use them for their own purpose. Christianity was not started by your Savior, but was started by a disciple named Paul over 100 years after the death of your Savior. How can a person who never met an individual who claim to know what that person is thinking and what that person wishes to have done with his teachings. Christianity was originated by someone who had no concept of what your Savior wanted. It's Christianity according to Paul. Your Savior was not a Christian he was a Jew and lived by Jewish law and belief. Another thing, God, Allah, Jehovah, Creator,or whatever name you want to give to the supreme being does not endorse any particular religion, the Creator is not a religious entity, religion in and of itself is an invention by man for the purpose of controlling the masses.
Vizio Your Savior did not have any commands for any church, he never wanted a church or a religion in his name.
Weird. He told the "church" many things. Including to go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them and teaching them to obey all he commanded. (Matt 28:19-20).
He also talked about the church, and building it (Matt 16:18-19)
You simply stating that he didn't plan for doesn't make it true.
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You see your Savior was nothing but a Jewish teacher, a Rabbi and he brought what he thought were the teachings of his God and Creator to the people that were being neglected by his own religion, the Jews. His teachings were mostly for those of the poor and down and out, the simple people, he was a teacher of the common man. His teachings were completely misconstrued by those who conspired to use them for their own purpose. Christianity was not started by your Savior, but was started by a disciple named Paul over 100 years after the death of your Savior. How can a person who never met an individual who claim to know what that person is thinking and what that person wishes to have done with his teachings. Christianity was originated by someone who had no concept of what your Savior wanted. It's Christianity according to Paul. Your Savior was not a Christian he was a Jew and lived by Jewish law and belief. Another thing, God, Allah, Jehovah, Creator,or whatever name you want to give to the supreme being does not endorse any particular religion, the Creator is not a religious entity, religion in and of itself is an invention by man for the purpose of controlling the masses.
Weird....because we have it documented that he appeared to Paul, and TOLD him to take the Gospel to the Gentiles.
Again....your hope and wishes that it weren't true isn't really relevant here. You really should bone up on your Bible knowledge a bit, because your ignorance is showing.
Weird. He told the "church" many things. Including to go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them and teaching them to obey all he commanded. (Matt 28:19-20).
He also talked about the church, and building it (Matt 16:18-19)
You simply stating that he didn't plan for doesn't make it true.
Weird....because we have it documented that he appeared to Paul, and TOLD him to take the Gospel to the Gentiles.
your documentation only appears in your sacred book and you only have Paul's word for that, a man who never knew nor met your Savior..
Again....your hope and wishes that it weren't true isn't really relevant here. You really should bone up on your Bible knowledge a bit, because your ignorance is showing.
I have no hopes and wishes for your Christianity because I am not a believer in your Christianity nor do I care for your sacred book because as far as I'm concerned it was written by many different men who had never met nor had any personal knowledge of your Savior.
I have no hopes and wishes for your Christianity because I am not a believer in your Christianity nor do I care for your sacred book because as far as I'm concerned it was written by many different men who had never met nor had any personal knowledge of your Savior.
I fully understand that. I don't take it personally.
Having said that, your understanding of it is simply wrong. I say that not out of any ill will or malice toward you. I pray that God would open your eyes to see the truth of it. You seem like a nice person.
On a side note, you state that my documentation occurs only in my sacred book. You got that wrong. My "book" is actually a collection of 66 different books that all agree with each other. It's not one book written by 1 guy. It's 66 written over a period of about 1500 years by about 40 different people.
I don't think Christianity by itself has a purpose.
Faith/belief in some higher authority seems to have a biological purpose. Any religion is just the natural human tendency to organise things like belief/faith.
Some people would even like to organise non belief.
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