Why I Lost My Christian Faith (hell, atheist, quote, Biblical)
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I don't think that means sitting back and waiting. Even if it did it's better than going 100 miles an hour in the wrong direction.
I’m going back to that it depends on what direction one is headed. Sometimes starting the journey and making course corrections as needed is preferable to standing still.
I’m going back to that it depends on what direction one is headed. Sometimes starting the journey and making course corrections as needed is preferable to standing still.
Its fine when people take "I don't know" and leave it at that. Leave their conversations about a "higher anything" out of their conversations. Stick to what they do know.
religion can be dangerous ... yes
I don't know about god ... yes
I don't have to know about god to say a guy didn't rise from the dead ... yes, thats true.
also, I deviate from it when people try and tell me "since I don't know I think its better we don't talk about any possibilities because it makes atheism harder to sell."
But, I must admit, I am with pleroo too. i don't like just telling people they are wrong. I like giving a something as a counter claim so that we can compare them to come up with a relative validity list.
Its fine when people take "I don't know" and leave it at that. Leave their conversations about a "higher anything" out of their conversations. Stick to what they do know.
religion can be dangerous ... yes
I don't know about god ... yes
I don't have to know about god to say a guy didn't rise from the dead ... yes, thats true.
also, I deviate from it when people try and tell me "since I don't know I think its better we don't talk about any possibilities because it makes atheism harder to sell."
But, I must admit, I am with pleroo too. i don't like just telling people they are wrong. I like giving a something as a counter claim so that we can compare them to come up with a relative validity list.
I'm fine with it too. I enjoy discussing my experiences with believers and comparing them to try and find a common denominator. Mostly I've found that people who have similar experiences aren't concerned with what I call it either.
When I was in the sect I think that knowledge position, more than anything, froze my mind. Even if I could "know" I wouldn't want to. It's better this way. No one has to agree with me because I don't know either.
Actually, your NO God may actually be a God. You really don't get it.
I get that that does not work. You are defining your god as reality, which is not dependent on a god (unless you are begging the question).
I am not defining reality as no god, I am pointing out that what we see as reality is better explained as no improbable complex intelligence just existing.
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That is why the default is and must remain "We Don't Know."
If we do not know, then logically the positive claim is probably wrong. Go on, guess my birthday.
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your atheist arrogance notwithstanding.
Logic an probability is atheist arrogance?
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You and I can believe one over the other but that does not change the default. This is so obvious and undeniable that I question the self-awareness of any who do not see it.
Your ignorance of probability is your problem, not mine.
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You cannot dismiss the status of our Reality so cavalierly out of ignorance about ALL of its attributes when its KNOWN attributes are sufficient to rule out No God.
So your assertion without evidence IS begging the question. Again.
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