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I get that that does not work. You are defining your god as reality, which is not dependent on a god (unless you are begging the question).
I am not defining reality as no god, I am pointing out that what we see as reality is better explained as no improbable complex intelligence just existing.
If we do not know, then logically the positive claim is probably wrong. Go on, guess my birthday.
Logic an probability is atheist arrogance?
Your ignorance of probability is your problem, not mine.
So your assertion without evidence IS begging the question. Again.
But your implicit demand that there be No God without some additional proof beyond what we already know about our Reality is NOT begging the question???? I can only assume that it is PROBABLY your inappropriate understanding and use of probabilities that is the reason for your obtuseness. Probabilities must be based on empirical data or they do NOT establish any position, they just describe our ignorance about it in quantitative terms. Our ignorance remains.
But your implicit demand that there be No God without some additional proof beyond what we already know about our Reality is NOT begging the question????
No, because we have the evidence.
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I can only assume that it is PROBABLY your inappropriate understanding and use of probabilities that is the reason for your obtuseness.
Open more wide, I believe you are going to put BOTH feet in.
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Probabilities must be based on empirical data or they do NOT establish any position, they just describe our ignorance about it in quantitative terms. Our ignorance remains.
Like the data we have for natural processes, plus the 7.2 billion data points that complex, intelligent beings simply do not exist for no reason? See, both feet.
No doubt your inappropriate understanding and use of probabilities is causing you to not understand this.
What evidence do you have or could you possibly have that our Reality is Not God???? Do you realize how stupid that claim is???
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Open more wide, I believe you are going to put BOTH feet in.
Like the data we have for natural processes, plus the 7.2 billion data points that complex, intelligent beings simply do not exist for no reason? See, both feet.
What the hell ARE "natural" processes???? How do complex Realities exist for no reason???? What is the reason for the existence of intelligence???? What is the reason for the existence of life???? What is the reason for the existence of consciousness????
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No doubt your inappropriate understanding and use of probabilities is causing you to not understand this.
Since I have the Doctorate and held a Professorship for 30 years teaching probabilities and quantitative methods, what does your understanding of probabilities say about the probability that your accusation is true? Or given your love of Bayes, what is the likelihood it is true????
What evidence do you have or could you possibly have that our Reality is Not God???? Do you realize how stupid that claim is??? What the hell ARE "natural" processes???? How do complex Realities exist for no reason???? What is the reason for the existence of intelligence???? What is the reason for the existence of life???? What is the reason for the existence of consciousness????
Since I have the Doctorate and held a Professorship for 30 years teaching probabilities and quantitative methods, what does your understanding of probabilities say about the probability that your accusation is true? Or given your love of Bayes, what is the likelihood it is true????
What is your doctorate in, Mystic?
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What evidence do you have or could you possibly have that our Reality is Not God???? Do you realize how stupid that claim is???
For the 4,562nd time, complex, intelligent first cause creator beings simply do not exist for no reason.
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What the hell ARE "natural" processes????
Our reality. No intelligence observed.
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How do complex Realities exist for no reason???? What is the reason for the existence of intelligence???? What is the reason for the existence of life???? What is the reason for the existence of consciousness????
Evolution, long time, big universe, chance.
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Since I have the Doctorate and held a Professorship for 30 years teaching probabilities and quantitative methods, what does your understanding of probabilities say about the probability that your accusation is true? Or given your love of Bayes, what is the likelihood it is true????
I don't get how a doctorate in Agriculture qualifies Mystic to make such sweeping assertions on Biblical beliefs--unless the doctorate in Agriculture had a special emphasis in how to grow new theology.
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I don't get how a doctorate in Agriculture qualifies Mystic to make such sweeping assertions on Biblical beliefs--unless the doctorate in Agriculture had a special emphasis in how to grow new theology.
I'm pretty sure that was a joke, meaning "BS".
I think I'm going to have to develop a little icon that posters can use when they're being sarcastic, or are joking.
There do seem to be people who don't get it hanging out on this board.
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